Comparison between two peptide sequences

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around comparing two peptide sequences using bioinformatics tools. Participants seek assistance in finding related sequences and aligning multiple sequences, while also exploring the underlying algorithms and concepts in bioinformatics.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests help in finding matches between two peptide sequences due to a lack of bioinformatics knowledge.
  • Another participant suggests using "BLAST 2 Sequence" from NCBI for comparing two sequences and recommends CLUSTAL for comparing more than two sequences.
  • Some participants express curiosity about the algorithms used in bioinformatics applications and whether they are similar to what they have learned.
  • A participant struggles to find the CLUSTAL program and asks for guidance on aligning more than two protein sequences.
  • Instructions are provided on how to use the CLUSTAL tool for multiple sequence alignment, including selecting sequences and adjusting settings.
  • Questions arise regarding how to label sequences in the workbench and the meaning of specific terms related to alignment results, such as "single, fully conserved residue" and "conservation of strong and weak groups."
  • A participant clarifies that a residue refers to an amino acid and provides definitions for strong and weak groups in the context of amino acid characteristics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of specific bioinformatics tools for sequence comparison and alignment, but there are varying levels of understanding and familiarity with the tools and concepts discussed. Some questions remain unresolved, particularly regarding the definitions of certain terms and the specifics of using the tools.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express confusion about the terminology used in bioinformatics, indicating a potential gap in foundational knowledge. There is also mention of the need for further learning resources or courses to better understand the tools and concepts.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in bioinformatics, particularly those looking to compare peptide sequences or learn about sequence alignment tools and their applications.

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hello everybody!

i have to find match between two different peptide sequences (looking for related sequences), but don't know where and how i can do it. i have very little bioinformatic background.

i hope for some help.

thanks a lot!
 
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To compare 2 sequences you can use "BLAST 2 Sequence" from NCBI
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/blast/bl2seq/bl2.html

You will have to select BLASTP as a program nand just have to paste your sequence in the respective box.

If you want something a more effecient or want to compare more than 2 sequences, I suggest that you use a program called CLUSTAL.

You can access a version of CLUSTAL at the Biology Workbench from UCSD
http://workbench.sdsc.edu/
You will have to register. This website also has several other bioinformatic tool.
 
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Sorry for chiming in unexpectedly. I remember my gal studying about algorithms on bioinformatics, she once said she also wanted to write algorithms, make applications about sequence matching. Are those apps as in the links you posted the same as what my gal has been doing ? Thank you

Edit to plus: I am not biologist or computer sceintist, medon't know,please be kind to tell me?
 
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thanks! i will check it.
 
Motifs said:
I remember my gal studying about algorithms on bioinformatics, she once said she also wanted to write algorithms, make applications about sequence matching. Are those apps as in the links you posted the same as what my gal has been doing ?

It probably the same kind of programming
 
iansmith said:
It probably the same kind of programming
:wink: your so sweet, I will delve into them, sort of changing my major, :biggrin:
 
iansmith said:
If you want something a more effecient or want to compare more than 2 sequences, I suggest that you use a program called CLUSTAL.

You can access a version of CLUSTAL at the Biology Workbench from UCSD
http://workbench.sdsc.edu/
You will have to register. This website also has several other bioinformatic tool.


hello Ian!

now i want to align more than two protein sequences but can't find the CRUSTAL program you talked about. they have CRYSTALDIST, CRYSTALTREE...but not CRYSTAL :eek: may you tell me why and how i can align more than two protein sequences?

big thanks!
 
Do not go into the aligment tool section, you have to go into the nucleic or protein tool depending on what you are using. Then you select "add new sequence" and click run to add all the sequence you want to use. You will then have a list of sequences. You then select (check the box beside the name) the sequence you added, select "CLUSTALW - multiple sequence alignment" and click run. You are then taken to a new screen with option for the program. I usually do not change anything the default option are fine. You may want to change the "Guide tree display" from "unrooted" to "unrooted and rooted". When you are finished click "Submit". It may take a while but will have the alignment.
 
hi Ian!

thanks! :smile:

yeah, i think i have got the alignment :biggrin: but how do i label my sequence (workbench label) ? and besides is there a place i can learn how to use these program? i feel like drowning in all the infos...totally lost!


BTW what does they mean with:
- single, fully conserved residue.
- conservation of strong groups.
- conservation of weak groups.


what exactly is residue is that amino acid?, strong groups? and weak group?

i have clicked on "Help" button, but it doesn't give me any good help.
thanks!
 
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To add a label, you have to write a title in the name box when you add a sequence. You can also replace the label by editing the sequence.

As far as for learning these program, you might have to take a bioinformatic course. To learn more about the program you can click on them then press "Help" to get all the information.
 
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hi Ian!

thanks for your patience!

but from my alignment result i got these terms:

- single, fully conserved residue.
- conservation of strong groups.
- conservation of weak groups.

what does it mean with strong groups and weak group? i have not heard about them before. residue must be amino acid though.

i have clicked on "Help" button, but it doesn't give me any good help.

thanks!
 
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A residue is the amino acid. A strong group is a group of amino acid that share almost characteristic and any amino acid from this group will may have a significant effect on the protein. A weak group is group that share a limited number of characteriste and this will have some significant but limited effect on the protein.
 
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thanks! :smile:
 

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