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Aproximate ground state wave functions

 
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Mar27-11, 11:40 AM   #1
 

Aproximate ground state wave functions


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

So to test the variational method of simple harmonic oscillator I am using some functions that can be a good approximations, such as:

Gaussian: [tex]\psi(x)=Ae^{-bx^2}[/tex]
Polynomial: [tex]\psi(x)=1-bx^2+\frac{b^2 x^4}{2}[/tex] (I just expanded the Gaussian into Taylor, I can use just quadratic term, it doesn't matter)
Rational function: [tex]\psi(x)=\frac{A}{x^2+b^2}[/tex]

So can you suggest some more functions that can describe the ground state, and perhaps the first excited state for SHO?

Thanks...
 
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Mar27-11, 11:53 AM   #2
 
Why can't you use the exact functions?
 
Mar27-11, 12:04 PM   #3
 
Because I'm using variational method and the point is that I use a trial wave function, find eigenvalue and then minimize it by some small parameter to see what is the deviation from the exact solution...
 
Mar27-11, 04:44 PM   #4
 
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Aproximate ground state wave functions


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Because I'm using variational method and the point is that I use a trial wave function, find eigenvalue and then minimize it by some small parameter to see what is the deviation from the exact solution...
So I would work backwards actually: Write down the exact functions (I guess you know them from your lecture? Otherwise they are easy to find) and build the to-be-varied functions by adding some more orders (polynomial / exponential, products of exponential and polynomial functions). Replace coefficients by parameters to be varied.
 
Mar28-11, 07:01 AM   #5
 
I mean are there any more types of functions that would approximate ground state and first excited state of SHO? Or do I just, as you said, try to plot them in Mathematica and see what looks kinda ok?
 
Mar28-11, 09:21 AM   #6
 
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My idea was to generate a test function that already contains the correct functions if some of the coefficients become zero. (I hope that I understood the problem correctly and this is a permitted approach.)

The exact functions are built from products of polynomial expressions and exponential functions (Hermite polynomials).

If you start from something like this, you should get A = 0 for the first excited state and B = 0 for the ground state.

[tex]\psi(x)=Ae^{-bx^2} + Bxe^{-bx^2}[/tex]

If you need more parameters to be varied I would add e.g.

[tex]Cx^2e^{-bx^2}[/tex]

The point I wanted to make is: I would use a test function that contains 'mixed' terms, not only Gaussian functions or polynomials.
 
Mar28-11, 10:17 AM   #7
 
I see, cool approach, but I guess I just need straightforward functions that I can just use in variational method.

I think that those 3 will do fine for the ground state and that I'll just have to try to see what other I can use for excited state.

Thanks for the help :)
 
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