Finding Equilibrium: Solving for Unknown Forces and Angles in a Particle System

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The discussion revolves around a particle in equilibrium subjected to three forces. The original poster seeks to determine the magnitude of force S and the angle theta, using horizontal and vertical force equations derived from the equilibrium condition.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the equilibrium equations horizontally and vertically but struggles with the next steps after setting up the equations. Some participants suggest rewriting the equations to facilitate cancellation of S. Others explore the reasoning behind dividing the equations and question the validity of setting the two equations equal to each other.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various approaches to manipulate the equations. There is a recognition of different methods to solve the system, and some guidance has been provided regarding the use of trigonometric identities. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and reasoning.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their understanding of the problem and the methods being discussed, indicating a desire for deeper comprehension rather than just following steps without understanding.

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Hello, this isn't technically a homework, but its something I'm trying to figure for myself. As shown in the diagram (in the attachment), there are three forces acting on a particle. The particle is in equilibrium. I have to find the magnitude of S and the angle theta (which ill write as x, because I don't know how to type theta on a computer screen) Now what I would do is solve it horizontally and vertically.
so horizontally: 6 - Scosx = 0
vertically : 2.5 - Ssinx = 0

My problem is where do I go from here? I know I could make it 6 = Scosx and likewise for the other, but it won't help me solve it. Since they are both equal to 0 I tried setting them equal to each other in the hope that the S would cancel and I would get sinx/cosx which is equal to tanx = to a number and then work from there. However I can't get the equation into that form. Any ideas on how I would solve this? Any help is very much appreciated :)
 

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Try writing your equations like this:
(1) 6 = Scosx
(2) 2.5 = Ssinx

Now how can you get the S to cancel?
 
Thank you for the reply. I can see a link there and use Ssinx/Scosx to cancel S and leave tanx = 2.5/6, then use inverse tan of 2.5/6 = x. Then working out S would be straightforward from there. Why would I do this though? Why would I divide the horizontal equation into the vertical equation? Is there theory behind doing this? I don't like being 'monkey sees, monkey does' :) Thanks for the help.
 
Oh and if possible, could someone please tell me why setting the two equal to each other does not work? I might have a serious hole in my understanding of it all. Thanks.
 
You're just solving two equations with two unknowns. There are many ways to approach it; here are two:
(1) Solve for S in one equation, then plug that into the second. That's a standard approach.
(2) Square both equations and add them. Take advantage of [itex]sin^2\theta + cos^2\theta = 1[/itex].

Your skill in math often depends on picking up various little "tricks of the trade". Try to have as many "tricks" in your bag as possible.
 
Thank you. I should have spotted that since I am much further on in maths now, from when I got this question. I did try to take advantage of https://www.physicsforums.com/latex_images/35/352887-0.png previous to posting the first time. However I came out with a very large sum, what I had before was incorrect I think.
 
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