Mass and Velocity in Elastic Collisions

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision problem involving a body of mass 2.0 kg that collides with another body at rest, resulting in a change in speed. Participants are tasked with determining the mass of the second body and the speed of the center of mass after the collision, given the initial speed of the first body.

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  • Participants explore the conservation of momentum and kinetic energy principles, with one suggesting a specific mass for the second body based on momentum calculations. Others raise questions about the equations used and the need to incorporate both conservation laws in their reasoning.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being proposed. Some participants have provided equations related to momentum and energy conservation, while others question the completeness of the reasoning presented. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach or answers yet.

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Participants note the importance of deriving answers in terms of the initial velocity, and there is an indication of differing levels of confidence in the calculations being presented.

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I have not been able to figure out anything about this problem. I hope somebody will help me.

A body of mass 2.0 kg makes an elastic collision with another body at rest and continues to move in the original direction but with one-fourth of its original speed. (A): What is the mass of the other body? (B): What is the speed of the two-body mass center of mass if the initial speed of the 2.0 kg body was 4.0 m/s?
 
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I'm only in High School so don't depend on my word for it!

Here's what I'm thinking...
momentum=m*v
p1=p2
.25v(2kg)=.75v(m)

the other mass is: 2/3 kg

So, v=.25*4*2 = 2m/s

think this is correct?
 
In an elastic collision, both kinetic energy and momentum are conserved. If I denote the initial velocity of the 2kg mass by u and the final velocity of the unknown mass by v then,

[tex]\frac{1}{2}(4kg)(u^2) = \frac{1}{2}(4kg)(\frac{u}{4})^2 + \frac{1}{2}(m)(v^2)[/tex] (Kinetic Energy Conservation)

[tex](4kg)u = 4kg({\frac{u}{4}}) + mv[/tex] (Linear Momentum Conservation)

You have two equations and two unknowns (m and v). You can solve for them easily now.

UrbanXrisis, you have written only one equation--that for linear momentum conservation. Read the question carefully (note that both energy and linear momentum are conserved in an elastic collision).

Now for the second part, I can only tell you that the hint for solving it lies in this very post coupled with the fact that the net force on a system equals the time rate of change of linear momentum.

Hope that helps...

Cheers
Vivek
 
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Are you supposed to get the answers in terms of u?
 

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