Comparing Polarizing Abilities of Molecules

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The discussion centers around the polarizing abilities of various molecules and their covalent versus ionic character. Participants explore different compounds, comparing their properties based on atomic size, electronegativity, and oxidation states. The scope includes theoretical considerations and conceptual clarifications related to chemical bonding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that LiF is more covalent than NaF due to Li's smaller atomic size and higher polarizing ability.
  • Another participant agrees with the idea that atomic volumes influence covalent character, noting that KCl is more ionic due to a larger size difference.
  • There is a proposal that HgI2 is more covalent than HgF2, with one participant expressing uncertainty about the reasoning.
  • A participant mentions the general rule that a bond is considered ionic if the electronegativity difference exceeds 1.7, questioning if this is correct.
  • One participant references a source suggesting that higher oxidation states lead to less ionic character, arguing that FeCl3 should be more covalent than FeCl2 based on this principle.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the covalent nature of FeCl2 versus FeCl3, with some agreeing on the influence of oxidation states while others remain unconvinced. Overall, multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the polarizing abilities of the discussed compounds.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of atomic volumes and electronegativity differences but do not fully resolve how these factors interact in determining covalent versus ionic character. There are also references to external sources that may not be universally accepted.

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more covalent??

hi. i saw this problem while doing some chem revision. they wanted me to point out and explain which one of the two is "more covalent". these are my personal explanations.. but i am not sure if I am correct or am i using the right way to do it.. pls feel free to give me your guidance

LiF and NaF- Since Li is smaller in terms of atomic size, it has a higher polarizing ablility therefore it is more covalent. at the same time, since Na has a larger size, it is more suceptable to lose an electron therefore more ionic in nature

KCl and LiCl- <same explanation as above>

FeCl2 and FeCl3- FeIII due to its +ve charge/radius have a higher polarizing ability therefore FeCl3 is more covalent.

HgF2 an HgI2- My guess is HgI2 <<< didn't know how to explain

pls help :) thanks in advance
 
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Atomic volumes are important in deciding whether the bond will relatively more covalent or not. In [itex]\displaystyle LiF[/itex], the atomic volumes are similar to each other; when the balance changes, they will be of more ionic nature, as in KCl. You can summarize this by cation/anion ratio.

In this viewpoint, [itex]\displaystyle HgI_2[/itex] is more covalent in nature, I think, your guess seems to be okay.

However, please note that I disagree with you about [itex]\displaystyle FeCl_2[/itex] and [itex]\displaystyle FeCl_3[/itex]; but I may be wrong either.
 
chem_tr said:
Atomic volumes are important in deciding whether the bond will relatively more covalent or not. In [itex]\displaystyle LiF[/itex], the atomic volumes are similar to each other; when the balance changes, they will be of more ionic nature, as in KCl. You can summarize this by cation/anion ratio.

In this viewpoint, [itex]\displaystyle HgI_2[/itex] is more covalent in nature, I think, your guess seems to be okay.

However, please note that I disagree with you about [itex]\displaystyle FeCl_2[/itex] and [itex]\displaystyle FeCl_3[/itex]; but I may be wrong either.

thanks for the reply :)

anyone else have any views on this??
 
As far as I remember, it is generally said that a bond is ionic if the electronegativity difference between the atoms is greater than 1.7. The greater the electronegativity difference between the atoms, the more ionic and the less covalent the bond. (correct me if I'm wrong)
 
chem_tr said:
Atomic volumes are important in deciding whether the bond will relatively more covalent or not. In [itex]\displaystyle LiF[/itex], the atomic volumes are similar to each other; when the balance changes, they will be of more ionic nature, as in KCl. You can summarize this by cation/anion ratio.

In this viewpoint, [itex]\displaystyle HgI_2[/itex] is more covalent in nature, I think, your guess seems to be okay.

However, please note that I disagree with you about [itex]\displaystyle FeCl_2[/itex] and [itex]\displaystyle FeCl_3[/itex]; but I may be wrong either.


"As the oxidation state of the metal becomes larger, the difference between the electronegativities of the metal and the nonmetal with which it combines decreases. The bonds in the compounds these elements form therefore become less ionic (or more covalent)." << found this on http://chemed.chem.purdue.edu/genchem/topicreview/bp/ch8/valenceframe.html


FeIII have a higher oxidation state then FeII... therefore it should be more covalent right?
 

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