Chain Rule for Quotients: Explained!

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The discussion revolves around the application of the chain rule and quotient rule in calculus, specifically in differentiating a function of the form 1/(t^4 + 1)^3. Participants are exploring the best approach to take when faced with such a problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions whether to apply the quotient rule or start with the chain rule for differentiation. Some participants share their attempts using both rules, noting the potential for mistakes with the quotient rule. Others suggest that either method could be valid.

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Participants are actively discussing different methods for differentiation, with some providing their reasoning and calculations. There is no explicit consensus on the preferred method, but various perspectives on the effectiveness of each approach are being explored.

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Some participants mention past experiences with errors in applying these rules, indicating a learning context where mistakes may influence their current reasoning.

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Hey what's up,
I had a question on the chain rule...How would I use the chain rule on a quotient...like if i have 1/(t^4 + 1)^3 , Would I use the quotient rule first, or just start with the chain rule?
 
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ok use the chain rule SO:

(bottom*d of top - top (d of bottom) )/bottom squared


wen u do all that u get (i may be wrong though)

-12t^3/(t^4 +1)^4
 
there are many rules u can use

like i used the quotient rule there
u can also solve it by using the prduct rule (WHICH I GOT WRONG ON THE TEST ERRR)
 
cool..thanks man.
 
Either one works.

Quotient rule:

[tex]f(t) = \frac{p(t)}{q(t)} = \frac{1}{(t^4 + 1)^3}[/tex]
so
[tex]p(t) = 1[/tex]
and
[tex]q(t) = (t^4+1)^3[/tex]
which are both functions of t.

Alternatively, the chain rule:

[tex]f(t) = f(u(t)) = \frac{1}{u^3}[/tex]
where [itex]u(t) = t^4 + 1[/itex]

So we have

[tex]\frac{d}{dt}f(u(t)) = \frac{df}{du}\frac{du}{dt}[/tex]
[tex]= \frac{d}{du}\left( u^{-3} \right) \frac{d}{dt}\left( t^4 + 1 \right) = (-3u^{-4})\cdot (4t^3) = \frac{-12t^3}{(t^4+1)^4}[/tex]

I imagine the chain rule method is a bit faster, and I personally think I'd be more likely to make a silly mistake with the quotient rule, so.

--Justin
 

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