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Career with eye floaters

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Jncik
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Jul27-11, 08:48 AM
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Hi friends, sadly I have eye floaters, and I don't know what to do, I have some myopia and I've always had them but this year(I'm 20 years old) they seem to have become more.

Do you have eye floaters? How do you cope with them? I'm a computer science student and I don't know how I will work if they become more..

Sometimes they don't let me concentrate... and they make me feel depressed.. I have an appointment with my doctor but I know what he will say, don't worry ignore them etc....

I feel like they are ruining my life....
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Jul27-11, 12:14 PM
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What kind of doctor are you seeing about this condition? You should have a retina specialist take a look. When is your appointment?
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Jul27-11, 12:34 PM
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Everybody has floaters but I am sorry to hear that yours are severe enough to have such an effect on your quality of life.

Unfortunately no one here can give you a medical diagnosis, It is vital that you talk to your doctor and explain that they are really disrupting how you go about your daily life, particularly at work. Most of the time there is no advised treatment for floaters though severe cases may warrant surgery to help.

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Jul27-11, 01:11 PM
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Career with eye floaters

Just how bad are these floaters that they're interfering with your life?

I have floaters. I think virtually everyone has floaters.
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Jul27-11, 01:37 PM
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they are really bad when I go outside and the sun is shining..

now that I'm writing this reply, I don't really see this floaters, because I'm focused on my typing, hence I ignore them...

I just came back from the doctor where he was very polite and examined my eye carefully, he saw what's going on inside with a special mechanism and after that he told me that there is no problem with my eye, this was the good news, the bad news is that I will have to learn and live with them since there is no medication for this...

he told me that he could remove the gel inside the eye but he won't recommend it because this surgery is serious and definitely should not be done when the floaters just annoy you... when there are huge floaters it's a different thing, but then more problems would rise, which I don't really want..

also he told me about the laser thing, sadly I live in Greece, and here no one does these kind of things, but there are some doctors in USA who do laser treatment, but again the results are not always acceptable by patients which I already found out before going to the doctor.. there were many saying that the floaters got worse, others were ok with the results etc

so basically I will have to live with them....

the sad thing is that, it is known how much all people around the world are suffering because of floaters, why is there no medication available for them? why is there no research on floaters? i know it's too small when compared to other diseases, but again they are really bad too and can affect your quality of life.. the technology is so advanced that I can't understand why something so "little" can't be cured....

it's sad that no scientist really cares about them....
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Jul27-11, 01:48 PM
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I have sympathy for you, it is sad when you have a medical condition that there is no treatment for. It is good news that your health is fine though, many people wish for just that.

Don't be too angry at scientists. There are literally millions of us with thousands of new research papers coming out daily. When it comes to medical treatments it takes years and years to develop, unfortunately for you but better for everyone overall biomedical research prioritises conditions with high; incidence, prevalence, morbidity, mortality and economic cost. A highly prevalent condition that many people are likely to get that both reduces quality of life and health as well as costing the country's/world's healthcare systems dearly is the type of thing that get's the most funding.

Don't despair, I can't say that there necessarily will be treatments in the future but the laser surgery is evidence that there is progress being made in the field.
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Jul27-11, 01:52 PM
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Are you talking about the little cell like things that you would see under a microscope?

Or is it just sparkles when you are in bright light?

Or is it the black spider web with black blobs that blocks your vision.

I have all of them and they have all checked out ok. The only ones that are problematic are the black blobs and spider webs. My understanding is that this is caused by material in the eye breaking off and casting shadows.

As long as the doctor has checked and there is no eye damage, then like everyone you just get used to them.
Jncik
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Jul27-11, 02:04 PM
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thanks for your replies

indeed laser surgery is a very good thing, especially for myopia and other similar diseases they can already cure these things in less than 10 minutes which is really great.. if they can do this.. they will be able (i hope) to cure the floaters too, since there are some doctors already trying them out, maybe they will find something that will have higher percentage of success.

Evo, I have two types, there is this one that is totally white.. and I don't know, it seems like a train of cells or something, and I have the black spiders like you say too.

the good thing is that, they appear only if I move my eye from down to up with a quick move, and even if I do this, after some seconds they all go down again and I don't see them that much.

yes it seems like many people do have them.. and also, even Beethoven was deaf but continued his great work, hence if he can do it, then everyone can. I guess there are some things in life that come for a reason, adjustment is the key to everything. I will have to get used to them, nothing can be done now, there is no other option, but there will always be hope for something better tomorrow.
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thanks for your replies

indeed laser surgery is a very good thing, especially for myopia and other similar diseases they can already cure these things in less than 10 minutes which is really great.. if they can do this.. they will be able (i hope) to cure the floaters too, since there are some doctors already trying them out, maybe they will find something that will have higher percentage of success.

Evo, I have two types, there is this one that is totally white.. and I don't know, it seems like a train of cells or something, and I have the black spiders like you say too.

the good thing is that, they appear only if I move my eye from down to up with a quick move, and even if I do this, after some seconds they all go down again and I don't see them that much.

yes it seems like many people do have them.. and also, even Beethoven was deaf but continued his great work, hence if he can do it, then everyone can. I guess there are some things in life that come for a reason, adjustment is the key to everything. I will have to get used to them, nothing can be done now, there is no other option, but there will always be hope for something better tomorrow.
If they worsen, or if you get blind spots, or flashes of light, pain in your eyes, etc... go see an opthamalogist immediately. Just because what you have now is ok, do not assume that if things change that it's still ok. Promise me.
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Jul27-11, 02:35 PM
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the sad thing is that, it is known how much all people around the world are suffering because of floaters, why is there no medication available for them? why is there no research on floaters? i know it's too small when compared to other diseases, but again they are really bad too and can affect your quality of life.. the technology is so advanced that I can't understand why something so "little" can't be cured....

it's sad that no scientist really cares about them....
I completely agree with you. They are effectively a form of blindness and should be given all the attention, say, cataracts get.

I have always had floaters. They were never much of a problem until the past couple of years when they finally, slowly, got numerous enough to interfere with me seeing detail. I think if I were a surgeon with people's lives dependent on my having good vision, I'd have to quit now. I do a lot of artwork and also reading and both these activities have become a preoccupation with avoiding the blurry spots, trying to ignore them, adjusting lighting so they're the least intrusive, etc.
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Jul27-11, 03:17 PM
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If they worsen, or if you get blind spots, or flashes of light, pain in your eyes, etc... go see an opthamalogist immediately. Just because what you have now is ok, do not assume that if things change that it's still ok. Promise me.
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I completely agree with you. They are effectively a form of blindness and should be given all the attention, say, cataracts get.

I have always had floaters. They were never much of a problem until the past couple of years when they finally, slowly, got numerous enough to interfere with me seeing detail. I think if I were a surgeon with people's lives dependent on my having good vision, I'd have to quit now. I do a lot of artwork and also reading and both these activities have become a preoccupation with avoiding the blurry spots, trying to ignore them, adjusting lighting so they're the least intrusive, etc.
Yes indeed it can be a form of blindness since if they're quite enough and large, then they tend to block your vision...

How are your floaters? are they big? can you move them out of your sight? Personally I'm still glad to be able to do that, since I'm usually writing code on my computer, floaters would be a pain if they were always in front of me, the good thing is that if I move my eyes they will move too, but then they will go down, and I won't see them that much anymore, is the same happening to you?

I hope that there's someone somewhere who does research on these things, surgery isn't for me an option, at least right now in the condition I'm in, but if something less invasive would be available, having great rates of success, I would definitely try it out... I believe that one day, there WILL be a cure, a lot of people suffer, and maybe some scientist with huge floaters will be the person to bring relief to so many sufferers around the world, including themselves.
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Jul27-11, 04:08 PM
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How are your floaters? are they big? can you move them out of your sight? Personally I'm still glad to be able to do that, since I'm usually writing code on my computer, floaters would be a pain if they were always in front of me, the good thing is that if I move my eyes they will move too, but then they will go down, and I won't see them that much anymore, is the same happening to you?
They are big and numerous enough that they are always in my visual field now. There is no getting away from them. They don't settle down, out of my way anymore. I am considerably older than you, mind you, 56, so they have been building up for decades.

Some views are better than others, though, and I'm frequently cocking my head trying to find the least obstructed one when I need to get a good look at something small. Mostly I try to concentrate on what I'm looking at instead of focusing on the floaters, but still, what I'm looking at is marred by spot blurs. Dimmer lighting helps because they show up the most against a white, well lit background.

Yes, you'd think some medical researcher in a position to explore a cure would be afflicted enough to motivate them. They are common enough.
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Jul27-11, 05:44 PM
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I hope that there's someone somewhere who does research on these things, surgery isn't for me an option, at least right now in the condition I'm in, but if something less invasive would be available, having great rates of success, I would definitely try it out... I believe that one day, there WILL be a cure, a lot of people suffer, and maybe some scientist with huge floaters will be the person to bring relief to so many sufferers around the world, including themselves.
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Yes, you'd think some medical researcher in a position to explore a cure would be afflicted enough to motivate them. They are common enough.
Like I said above, research is unfortunately but by necessity prioritised. I will look up later if I have time if there is any current research if you like.
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Jul27-11, 09:58 PM
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i have them. they used to annoy me more than they do now. you might try experimenting with lighting conditions to see if they are less noticeable. yes, the bright light on a white background can be a pain.
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Jul28-11, 04:08 AM
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Like I said above, research is unfortunately but by necessity prioritised. I will look up later if I have time if there is any current research if you like.
That would be great thanks
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Jul28-11, 05:09 AM
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I couldn't find much but this review paper: Current treatment for vitreous floaters David P. Sendrowski O.D.a, Mark A. Bronstein M.D.b talks about some of the current treatments and the risks of "off-label" treatments such as laser and conventional surgery. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like there is going to be a good treatment any time soon, research in surgery so far has shown it to be poorly effective as well as risky. The paper has references to other research in the field if you are interested.

At the end of the day it is important to remember that you still have your health, if you accept what you have you can deal with it better and hopefully in time come to ignore it.
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Jul28-11, 11:28 AM
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thanks at least it's something..
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Jul28-11, 12:35 PM
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And over time the black floaters, which are the ones that can cause the most problems with blocking vision, can come and go. Over time the "stuff" can disappear or become less dense. I have had this happen over and over.


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