Understanding Rf Values for BIO Lab

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The discussion revolves around understanding Rf values in the context of a biology lab focused on chlorophylls and pigments. The original poster seeks clarification on the definition and application of Rf values as they prepare for their upcoming lab.

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  • Participants discuss the variability of Rf values in chromatography and the challenges in finding a definitive table of Rf values. Questions about the definition and practical implications of Rf values in lab settings are raised.

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Some participants have provided insights into the nature of Rf values and their dependence on experimental conditions. The original poster has received a definition that seems to address their initial query, and they express intent to follow up after their lab.

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The original poster notes a lack of detailed information from their teacher regarding the lab, which may influence their understanding and preparation.

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rf value!?#@$%^&

Hey guys,

Before doing a lab tomorrow, we need to find out what Rf values are, i can't seem to find a definition about it online so some help would be great. Basically we are doing this BIO but the teacher won't tell us exactly about the lab but it is about chlorophylls and pigments.

thx a lot.

m!ke
 
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There is no such thing as a table of Rf values. Chromatographic retention times are sensitively and unpredictably dependent on the conditions; if you run chromatography on the same sample three consecutive times (using the "same conditions") you will get different retention values (Rf or whatever) for the same substance each time!
That's not to say that the values will be wildly different; in sensitive techniques such as gas chromatography you get almost the same values for the same substance on consecutive runs. But with TLC the only way to unambiguously identify something is to run an authentic sample on the same plate as the substance to be identified. Not "another plate, right afterwards." The same plate.

That's why you will never find a table of Rf values. Or of GC retention times, for that matter.
 
Oh, for the definition: The retention factor, or Rf, is defined as the distance traveled by the compound divided by the distance traveled by the solvent.
 
ah ok i c, the last part about the definition was all i needed, thanks a lot dude, i'll update u on what happens tomorrow. =)
 

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