Calculating Distance from Center of Earth to Point with 0.50g Acceleration

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The problem involves calculating the distance from the center of the Earth to a point below the surface where the acceleration due to gravity is 0.50g, with g representing the acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface. Participants express confusion regarding the application of gravitational laws and the relevance of Kepler's laws to this context.

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  • Participants discuss the use of various gravitational equations, including the universal gravitational law and Kepler's laws. Some express uncertainty about the correct mass to use in calculations and question the relationship between gravitational force and the distance from the Earth's center.

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There is ongoing exploration of different gravitational equations and their applicability to the problem. Some participants have suggested specific equations to use, while others are questioning the assumptions made regarding the mass of the Earth and the relevance of orbital mechanics.

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Participants note the need for the density of the Earth to determine the mass below a certain radius, and there is a discussion about the implications of using the total mass of the Earth versus the mass below the point of interest.

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Problem:
Calculate the distance from the center of the Earth to a point below the surface where the acceleration due to gravity is 0.50g, where g is the acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface.
I am really stuck on this. I tried using T^2 = 4pi^2 / GMe *r^3
but it didnt work it could be because M is supposed to be the mass of the sun but I decided it should be the mass of the earth! But it wasnt, it didnt work. I just can't seem to find a way to relate Keplers Laws to this problem. Are there other equations I could use?
Thanks in advance!
 
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Universal gravitational law :
[tex]\frac{Gm_{1}m_{2}}{r^2}=m_{2}g[/tex]
m1 is the mass of the eart from its center up to the point. g is the gravitational acceleration at that point. m2 is the mass of an object you place at that point.
to find m1, you have to know the density of earth.
 
envscigrl said:
Problem:
Calculate the distance from the center of the Earth to a point below the surface where the acceleration due to gravity is 0.50g, where g is the acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface.
I am really stuck on this. I tried using T^2 = 4pi^2 / GMe *r^3
but it didnt work it could be because M is supposed to be the mass of the sun but I decided it should be the mass of the earth! But it wasnt, it didnt work. I just can't seem to find a way to relate Keplers Laws to this problem. Are there other equations I could use?
Thanks in advance!


You used kepler's law. It makes no mention of force. It would work for a body in orbit of the earth, T being the period of the orbit. But that is not the question, so that equation is completely irrelevant. use the equationg given by leong. consider:

[tex] g=G*\frac{M}{r^2}[/tex]

so

[tex] 0.5g = G*\frac{M}{r_{new}^2}[/tex]

and solve for [tex]r_{new}[/tex].

Note: [tex]M[/tex] is the mass of the earth.
 
envscigrl said:
Problem:
Calculate the distance from the center of the Earth to a point below the surface where the acceleration due to gravity is 0.50g, where g is the acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface.
I am really stuck on this. I tried using T^2 = 4pi^2 / GMe *r^3
but it didnt work it could be because M is supposed to be the mass of the sun but I decided it should be the mass of the earth! But it wasnt, it didnt work. I just can't seem to find a way to relate Keplers Laws to this problem. Are there other equations I could use?
Thanks in advance!

I don't know why you would use that formula- that's for time and radius of an orbit!

In general, gravitational force is [itex]\frac{Gm_{e}m_{2}}{r^2}[/itex] where me is the mass of the earth, m2 is the mass of the "test object". If r= R, the radius of the earth, then [itex]\frac{Gm_{2}m_{2}}{R^2}=m_2 g[/tex] so that [itex]\frac{Gm_e}{R^2}= g[/itex] as Leong said. <br /> <br /> HOWEVER, only the mass BELOW the level of the object affects the gravitational pull. With m<sub>e</sub> as the total mass of the Earth and R the radius of the earth, and &rho; the (average) density of the earth, [itex]m_e= \frac{4}{3}\piR^3 \rho[/itex] so [itex]\rho= \frac{3m_e}{4\piR^3}[/itex]. The mass of the Earth <b>below</b> radius r is [itex]\rho\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3= m_e\frac{r^3}{R^3}= m_e\(\frac{r}{R}\)^3[/itex].<br /> <br /> The gravitational pull on an object of mass m<sub>1</sub> at distance r from the center of the Earth is [itex]\frac{m_em_1\(\frac{r}{R}\)^3}{r^2}= \frac{m_em_1r}{R^3}[/itex] and we want that equal to (1/2)gm.<br /> <br /> We must have [itex]\frac{m_er}{R^3}= \frac{g}{2}=/frac{m_e}{R^2}[/itex] . Solve that for r (which is remarkably simple!).[/itex]
 

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