Conservation of momentum cannon problem

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The problem involves a cannon that fires a projectile, with considerations of momentum conservation, recoil speed, spring extension, and forces involved in the system. The subject area includes mechanics, specifically conservation of momentum and spring dynamics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the recoil speed of the cannon and the maximum extension of the spring, while also questioning the conservation of momentum in the system. Some participants suggest using conservation of momentum to find the recoil speed and raise questions about the force exerted by the spring.

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Participants have provided calculations for the recoil speed of the cannon and discussed the work done by the spring. There is ongoing exploration of the spring force and its implications for part c of the problem. Multiple interpretations of the spring's behavior are being considered.

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The original poster has indicated a specific understanding regarding the conservation of momentum, noting that the spring acts as an external force during the firing of the cannon. There may be constraints related to the assumptions made about the system's components and their interactions.

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A cannon rigidly attached to a carriage, whic can move along horizontal rails but is connected to a post by a large initially unstreched spring with a force constant k=2x10^4N/m. The cannon fires a 200kg projectile at a velocity of 125m/s directed 45 degrees above the horizontal.

a) If the mass of the cannon and its carriage is 5000kg, find the recoil speed of the cannon.

b) Determine the maximum extension of the spring.

c) Find the maximum force the spring exerts on the carriage.

d) Consider the system consisting of the cannon, carriage, and shedd. Is the momentum of this system conserved during the firing? Why or why not?

I already know the answer to d, which is no, since the spring is an external force acting on the system.

However, can someone please, help me to get started on a, b, and c?

Thank you
 
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a) Use conservation of momentum (before the spring takes effect). A 200kg projectile at a velocity of 125m/s has momentum vector with magnitude 25000 kgm/s. Since the shell is fired at 45 degrees, the horizontal component is (√(2)/2) times that (the ground will absorb the vertical component). The horizontal component of momentum of the shell is 17678 kgm/s. The momentum of cannon and carriage must be the same but in the opposite direction: 5000 kg *v= -17678 so v= -3.53 m/s (negative meaning opposite direction to flight of shell.)

Knowing the velocity of cannon and carriage, you can calculate their kinetic energy:
(1/2)(5000)(3.53)2. The work done by the spring is (1/2)(2x104x2 and the spring must do work equal to the kinetic energy to stop the cannon and carriage: solve 104x2= 2500(3.53)2.
 
Thank you very much!

On part c does the spring exerts only F=-kx?

Can this part be this simple?
 
gaborfk said:
On part c does the spring exerts only F=-kx?

Can this part be this simple?
Yes and yes.
 

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