Brain Buster: Solving the Minimum Angular Velocity for a Thrilling Carnival Ride

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a rotating cylinder at a carnival, where participants are tasked with determining the minimum angular velocity required to keep individuals adhered to the wall after the floor is removed. The problem incorporates concepts of static friction, centripetal acceleration, and forces acting on the participants.

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  • Participants discuss the application of equations related to centripetal acceleration and friction. There is an exploration of the forces involved, including normal force and gravitational force, and how they relate to the angular velocity. Some participants question the accuracy of their calculations and the significance of significant figures in their results.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their approaches and calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct formula to use, and there is acknowledgment of discrepancies in expected answers due to significant figure rules. Multiple interpretations of the problem and its requirements are being explored.

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Participants note confusion regarding the application of significant figures as per course guidelines, which may affect the final accepted answer. There is also mention of the need to consider the forces in a rotating reference frame.

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One of the amusements at many carnivals is a rotating cylinder. The customers step inside and stand with their backs to the wall. The cylinder spins very rapidly, and at some angular velocity the floor is pulled away. The thrill-seekers now hang like flies on the wall. If the radius of the cylinder is 5.6 m, and the coefficient of static friction between the people and the wall is 0.5, what is the minimum angular velocity, w, at which the floor can be withdrawn?
 
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i used the equation W=√g/µr but it was incorrect
 
This problem is pretty straightforward if you draw an FBD from the rotating reference frame. The normal force exerted by the cylinder is going to provide the centripetal acceleration.

so
[tex]a_c=r\omega^2[/tex]
[tex]F_{normal}=ma_c[/tex]
[tex]F_{friction}=\mu m a_c[/tex]
[tex]F_g=mg[/tex]
[tex]|F_{friction}|=|F_g[/tex]
[tex]\mu m a_c = m g[/tex]
[tex]\mu r \omega^2 = g[/tex]
[tex]\omega=\sqrt{\frac{g}{\mu r}}[/tex]

Looks like you were right.
Now plugging in numbers:
[tex]\omega=\sqrt{\frac{9.81}{0.5 \times 5.6}} \approx 2 s^{-1}[/tex]
(0.5 has only one sig fig).
 
thanks for the help i used that equation but for some reason the computer didnt like it the course tells me to use the significant figure rule then doesn't use it later so the accepted answer was 1.872s-1 but thanks for the help again i really appreciate it.
 

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