What are the solutions to ln(z) = 1 and ln(-e^2)?

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The discussion revolves around finding all values of z that satisfy the equations ln(z) = 1 and ln(-e^2). The original poster explores the complex logarithm and its implications for these equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to express ln(-e^2) in terms of its magnitude and argument, questioning whether they have identified all solutions. They also analyze ln(z) = 1, expressing concerns about the singular solution they derived.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's reasoning, providing alternative perspectives on the solutions. Some participants confirm the original poster's findings for ln(-e^2) while questioning the interpretation of the second equation. There is an ongoing exploration of possible solutions without a clear consensus.

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Participants note potential ambiguities in the problem setup and the implications of complex logarithms, particularly regarding the argument of z and the nature of multiple solutions.

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Hi there, I was hoping someone could check my solutions here to make sure I'm on the right track with these. We've been asked to find ALL values of z satisfying the following eqts -
z= ln(-e^2)

which I did by letting ln (-e^2)= ln|-e^2| + iarg(-e^2)
= e^2 + i(pi + 2m(pi)) where m = 0, +1, -1, +2, -2...

are these all the solutions or am I supposed to go further with this to show ALL the solutions?

I've another problem with ln(z)=1 because I have this = ln|z) +iarg(z) so 1=ln|z) when you compare real and imaginary parts. So then we get e^1=|z| so is z just 1/e? It just doesn't seem right to me, since we only get one solution and the question kinda hints at more than one (or maybe it' just the drink talking here!).

Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks! :blushing:
 
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I don't think you have the second part quite right. I get something different for [tex]z[/tex]
 
[tex]z = ln(-e^2) = ln(-1) + ln(e^2) = 2 + i(2m+1)\pi[/tex]

That's what you wanted to write, I think ?

And I'm not clear where the 1/e came from, in the second part...
 
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Yup, that's what I got for the first one. Was a bit tiddly poo when writing it up tho- sorry! Is that all I have to state for it when it just asks for all the solutions?

In the second one, it wa meant to be ln(z)=-1 (sorry, I'm not drinking again!) so I let -1=ln|z| so then I took exponentials of both sides so I had e^(-1)=|z| so 1/e would equal z. I wasn't sure about having z also equal to -1/e, because since ln(z) = ln|z| + iarg(z) then for z=-1/e then the arg would have to be pi or something...
 
Oh, and thanks for helping me before. :smile:
 
Could someone maybe clarify if what I've done with the second part is okay now? Thanks, I'm just not sure if that's the only solution I can get. I think it is but I'm not 100% sure. :smile:
 

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