Quadratic Has A Maximum Value Or A Minimum Value

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The discussion revolves around determining whether a given quadratic function has a maximum or minimum value, specifically focusing on the function F(x) = -x² - 6x - 7. Participants are also exploring the effects of parameters a and b in the function y = |x + a| + b, and comparing it to y = |x|.

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  • Participants discuss the nature of the quadratic function, questioning how to identify if it opens upwards or downwards. Some suggest using calculus or completing the square to find the maximum or minimum value. Others inquire about the effects of parameters on the graph of the absolute value function.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing hints and guidance on how to approach the problems. There is no clear consensus, as some participants express confusion and seek further clarification on the methods discussed.

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Some participants express urgency in needing help, while others emphasize the importance of putting in effort before seeking answers. There are indications of differing levels of understanding among participants regarding calculus and algebraic manipulation.

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Due Tomorrow Please Help Now!

#2 Tell Whether The Quadratic Has A Maximum Value Or A Minimum Value. The Find The Value. Round To The Nearest Tenth. :confused:

F(x)= -x² -6x - 7


#3 Let y = | x+a | +b, Where a ‡ 0 and b ‡ 0 . Explain how the values of a and b affect the graph of the functions as compared to the graph of y= |x|.



I NEED HELP FAST HURRY! :cry: THANK YOU!
 
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#1 Solve. Round Decimal Answer To The Nearest Tenth.

x + y = 6 -(1)
y + z = 4 -(2)
x + z = 2 -(3)

Take equation (1). Rearrage to get y in terms of x.
Substitute that into equation (2) to get a new equation for x and z - equation (2b)
Eliminate either x or z from equations (2b) and (3), solving simultaneously.
Back-substitute to get the other two solutions.

#2 Tell Whether The Quadratic Has A Maximum Value Or A Minimum Value. The Find The Value. Round To The Nearest Tenth.

F(x)= -x² -6x - 7

This is a parabola. Which way round does it go? Peak at the top, or the bottom? How can you tell?

To find the maximum or minimum, you can either differentiate (if you know calculus), or complete the square (if you don't).

#3 Let y = | x+a | +b, Where a ‡ 0 and b ‡ 0 . Explain how the values of a and b affect the graph of the functions as compared to the graph of y= |x|.

How do the following graphs differ:

y = sin x
y = sin x + 6

How about these ones:

y = sin x
y = sin(x+6)

Apply that to your problem.

If you need more help, let us know.
 
I Need More Help. I DONT GET IT.
 
Well, let's start with the first one:

x + y = 6
y + z = 4
x + z = 2

You have three equations and three unknowns. Pretty simple here.

Lets write the first equation in terms of y.

y = 6 - x

(*Remember when you move a term to the other side of the equals sign, its sign changes*)

Now, we know what y is. So we can take that and substitude (6-x) wherever there is 'y' term.

Take a look at the second equation:

y + z = 4

We now know what y is, so we can turn this into a new equation.

(6 - x) + z = 4
6 - x + z = 4
z - x = -2

Now let's take a look at the third equation

x + z = 2

Lets rearrange this bad-boy in terms of z

z = 2 - x

(*Isn't this fun?*)

Knowing that
z - x = -2
We can now write
2 - x - x = -2
-2x = -4

I hope you can take it from there.
 
thank you, how about the 2nd and the 3rd ones?
 
need answers
 
Well, for the second question let's look at your equation.

F(x)= -x² -6x - 7

Its in the form ax^2+bx+c which means that you are given a parabola


This is what a f(x) = x^2 looks like

Parabola1.gif


Now what we have here is a little different. Our parabola has a negative sign infront of it. This means that it will be upside down, or opening downwards.

From that you should be able to figure out if it will have a MAX or a MIN.

To find the MAX/MIN value just set dy/dx(f(x)) = 0

Solve for x, plug into f(x) and you'll get your y value.
 
I'll put in just as much effort as you do, chikawakajones.

#2: We have

That's about it.

--J
 
how do u solve for x?
 
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Chikawakajones said:
need answers

Justin Lazear said:
I'll put in just as much effort as you do, chikawakajones.

#2: We have

That's about it.

--J

haha :smile:
 
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just help me...
 
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Well, you have two options. If you know calculus you can take the derivative of f(x), or you can complete the square.

Either way is really easy. And you'll get the same value for x.

I'm going to assume right off the bat that you don't know calculus. So, I'll explain how to complete the square

f(x) = -x^2-6x-7


For the general equation:

x^2 + bx + c

Take half of the middle term (b) and add its square to the last term (c).

(x-b/2)^2 + c + b^2

set

x-b/2 = 0

solve for x

plug x into F(x)

(x, F(x) ) are your points
 
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im doing other problems right now...that is why i need as much help i could get
 
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for the x value, i got -22. is this right?
 
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Chikawakajones said:
for the x value, i got -22. is this right?

Err--no. Not quite sure how you got that.

Lets look at this again, and break it down.

We have

f(x)= -(x^2) -6x -7

Lets break this bad boy down.

Term A is going to be [tex]-(x^2)[/tex]

Term B is going to be [tex]-6x[/tex]

Term C is going to be [tex]-7[/tex]

Lets take out the x's

b = 6

c = -7

Now the general formula is

[tex](x-\frac{b}{2})^2 + (\frac{b}{2})^2 + c[/tex]


Now take your [tex](x-\frac{b}{2})^2[/tex] part

and set [tex]x-\frac{b}{2} = 0[/tex]

solve for x

plug into your oringal function to get y

Or you know what in this case just take b (READ: 6) divide it by two (READ: 6/2) and then set x - b (READ: -x - 6/2) to 0 (READ: x + 6/2 = 0)

Then plug that value (READ: -6/2) into f(x) to get your Y value.
 
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If x=-22 is supposed to be the x value of the maximum point, the answer is "no - that's not right."

Please post your working so we can tell you where you went wrong.
 

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