Need help on Electrical Field problem

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The problem involves determining the electric field and resultant force on a charge located at a corner of a square formed by four other charges. The context is within the subject area of electrostatics, specifically focusing on electric fields generated by point charges.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the electric fields from multiple charges and seeks clarification on breaking down vector components. Some participants question the definitions and assumptions regarding the electric fields and forces, particularly the values used for the charges and the distances involved.

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Participants are actively discussing the setup of the problem, with some providing corrections to the original poster's expressions for electric fields and forces. There is a focus on resolving components and understanding the relationships between the charges. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored.

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Four charges are at the corners of a square of side a as show in the figure. a) Determine the magnitude and direction of the electric field at the location of charge q. b) What is the resultant force on q?
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I made E1 equal the electric field of 2q and q. I made E2 equal the electric field of 3q and q. I made E3 equal the electric field of 4q and q. So, when I wrote out the vector notations of each electric field, I got:
[tex]E_{1} = k_{e} \frac {2q} {a^2} \hat {i}[/tex]
[tex]E_{3} = k_{e} \frac {4q} {a^2} \hat {j}[/tex]
[tex]E_{2} = k_{e} \frac {3q} {a^2}[/tex]
How would u break down E2 into x and y components?

Also, after getting E1, E2, and E3, E = E1 + E2 + E3. So, you add all the vectors up and a x and y component. Next, magnitude of E = square root of x component squared plus y component squared. The angle is tan of y component over x component.

Did I do it right for part A? Any help would be great! thanks !
 
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I'm not sure what you mean by "electric field of 2q and q" since you don't give any electric field, just the force between 2q and q. Even for those, I don't see how you got the "2q", "4q", and "3q" in the numerators. The force between two charges depends upon the product of their charges. Assuming that "2q" means the charge is twice that of q, etc. the forces are
[tex]F_{1} = k_{e} \frac {2q^2} {a^2} \hat {i}[/tex]
[tex]F_{2} = k_{e} \frac {3q} {a^2}[/tex]

You also seem missing the fact that the distance between "q" and "3q" is √(2)a, not a.
[tex]F_{3} = k_{e} \frac {2q^2} {2a^2} \hat {j}[/tex]

Those are the magnitudes. Of course F1 has positive x component and 0 y component while F3 has positive y component and 0 x component.

F2 has equal x and y components, equal to the magnitude of F2 above multiplied by 1/√(2).
 
andrew410 said:
I got:
[tex]E_{1} = k_{e} \frac {2q} {a^2} \hat {i}[/tex]
[tex]E_{3} = k_{e} \frac {4q} {a^2} \hat {j}[/tex]
[tex]E_{2} = k_{e} \frac {3q} {a^2}[/tex]
How would u break down E2 into x and y components?
Your expression for E2 is incorrect. The separation is [itex]\sqrt{2a^2}[/itex]

Resolve E2 into its [itex]\hat{i}[/itex] and [itex]\hat{j}[/itex] components and add to E1 and E3 respectively.That gives you the orthogonal components of the resulting vector. Just work out the direction and magnitude from those components to get the resulting field. Then use [itex]\vec{F} = q\vec{E}[/itex]

AM
 
thx a lot!
 

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