Are Electric Field Vectors in the X Direction Identical for Each Point?

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of electric field vectors, specifically focusing on whether the electric field in the x direction is identical at different points due to a consistent distance parameter, referred to as rix. Participants are exploring the implications of this assumption in the context of electric field calculations.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster questions whether the electric field in the x direction should be the same for each point, given that the distance parameter is constant. Some participants discuss the factors affecting the x-component of the electric field, including distance and angle variations.

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Participants are actively engaging with the concepts, with some providing clarifications about how the electric field components vary due to changing distances and angles. There is a recognition of the need to consider these variations in calculations, although no consensus has been reached on the original poster's assumption.

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There are indications that participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the depth of exploration into the topic. The discussion includes references to specific calculations and the need for clarity on how to combine electric field components.

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I just wanted to make sure I am doing this right, my problem is that I think the electric field in the x direction should be the same for each one because the rix is the same for each point. Or am I just thinking too hard?
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shemer77 said:

Homework Statement


I just wanted to make sure I am doing this right, my problem is that I think the electric field in the x direction should be the same for each one because the rix is the same for each point. Or am I just thinking too hard?

You are correct that rix for the distance from the point at which the field is being measured to each of the cells is just the same. But the x-component of the electric field from each cell, [itex]\Delta E_{ix}[/itex] , is going to differ with each cell for two reasons: the total distance to the point from each cell is getting larger, so the strength of the electric field from each cell is getting successively smaller; and the angle that the direction from each cell makes with the x-axis is opening up further for each successive cell, so [itex]\cos \theta[/itex] is also getting smaller for each cell down the line. So [itex]\Delta E_{ix}[/itex] should get smaller for each cell down the list.
 
thanks!
 
Hey one more quick question for the net field box under [itex]\Delta E_{ix}[/itex] and [itex]\Delta E_{iy}[/itex] I just add up all the values right? and then what should I put in for the 2 boxes of the field magnitude and direction?
 
shemer77 said:
Hey one more quick question for the net field box under [itex]\Delta E_{ix}[/itex] and [itex]\Delta E_{iy}[/itex] I just add up all the values right? and then what should I put in for the 2 boxes of the field magnitude and direction?

Those are perpendicular components of the field [itex]\Delta E_{i}[/itex] from each cell, so they must be added "in quadrature", that is, according to the Pythagorean Theorem, since the field represents the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the two components being the triangle's legs. So [itex]\Delta E_{i} = \sqrt{(\Delta E_{ix})^{2} + (\Delta E_{iy})^{2} }[/itex].

EDIT: I had to go back and look at your table again. Yes, you would first add up the columns for [itex]\Delta E_{ix}[/itex] and [itex]\Delta E_{iy}[/itex] to get the totals of each component. Then you would combine the total x-component and y-component of the field in the way I described, but with [itex]\Delta E = \sqrt{(\Delta E_{x})^{2} + (\Delta E_{y})^{2} }[/itex]. (I didn't remember what your table entries looked like...)

EDIT: For the direction of the total field, you need [itex]\tan \theta[/itex], which is equal to [itex]\frac{\Delta E_{y}}{\Delta E_{x}}[/itex] with the values taken from your sums . You would then calculate the inverse tangent (tan-1) of that value to find [itex]\theta[/itex], which is the angle the field direction makes with the x-axis.
 
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thanks for your help! Really appreciate it, i got it and understand it now!
 

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