Which oxidation state should I assume when balancing equations?

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The discussion revolves around determining the appropriate oxidation states to assume when balancing chemical equations, particularly in the context of combining elements with multiple oxidation states, such as magnesium and nitrogen. The scope includes theoretical considerations, practical applications in chemical equations, and the influence of electronegativity and compound types.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that when combining magnesium and nitrogen, one should assume nitrogen has a negative oxidation state, potentially -2, while magnesium is +2.
  • Another participant points out that nitrogen in nitrides typically has a valence of -3, referencing the compound Mg3N2, and discusses the complexity of transitional metals with multiple oxidation states.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes that the oxidation state is influenced by the atom's environment in a crystalline solid and that common oxidation states can often be relied upon, noting that nitrogen's most common states are -3 and +5.
  • One participant questions the assumption of nitrogen being -2, suggesting that it may not be appropriate and that the oxidation state should depend on the electronegativity of the elements involved.
  • Another participant agrees that electronegativity is a key factor in determining oxidation states and describes the electron transfer process between magnesium and nitrogen when they form a compound.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on which oxidation states to assume, particularly regarding nitrogen's oxidation state. There is no consensus on a single approach, as multiple perspectives on the influence of electronegativity and common oxidation states are presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various factors influencing oxidation states, such as electronegativity, the environment of the atom, and the nature of the compounds formed, but do not resolve how these factors interact in specific cases.

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When dealing with an equation in which you combine 2 elements that have multiple oxidation states, let's say Magnesium and Nitrogen, which oxidation states do you assume you're working with? I know that in the instance of Magnesium and Nitrogen, it would have to be one of Nitrogen's negative oxidation states, and Magnesium would be +2, but aside from that, I'm not sure. Should you just assume it's the first listed on the periodic table for Nitrogen, or should I assume -2?
 
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Nitrogen in nitrides tends to have a valence -3 as in [tex]Mg_3 N_2[/tex].

Way back when, I remember looking at electronegativities, ionic radii, and thermodynamic considerations like heat of formation. Now its just easier to look up a compound in a table or database.

Transitional metals can be difficult because elements like Mo have valence states like (+2, +3, +4, +5, +6) and Mn has valence states of (+1 to +7, although +1 and +5 are uncommon). Which state depends on the anionic species.

Are you strictly looking at binary compounds.

I think Chem_tr is the one to answer this question.
 
There are several things that determine the oxidation state that is right. In a crystalline solid, the neighbourhood of the atom often plays the most important role in determining the oxidation state. It's useful to know what are the most common oxidation states for the multivalent elements.

In the case of nitrogen, there is absolutely no reason for you to assume that it is -2 (did you pick this because Mg is +2 ?). More often than not, the oxidation state mentioned in a periodic table as the most common one will work. For nitrogen, the -3 and +5 states are the most common. Between these two, it's not hard to decide which state it takes in which compounds. It will have a positive oxidation state in a binary compound that involves a more electronegative element and a negative oxidation state if the other element is less electronegative.

In cases where the electronegativities are similar (or in crystalline solids) there is often more than one compound that may be formed, particularly if one of the elements is strongly multivalent. (eg : oxides of nitrogen, inter-halogen compounds, etc.)

A good way to determine the most likely oxidation state is by trying to draw the molecular (Lewis or other such type) structure, and picking the most stable configuration...but this may be a little advanced.

And, as astronuc mentioned, magnesium nitride is Mg(3)N(2).
 
Thanks a lot, I did choose -2 because Mg is +2.
 
Hello

As Gokul said, electronegativity is a principal option for decision. In many cases you can easily deduce for a metal and ametal, and even inter-ametallic compounds. You should first use electronegativity, I suppose.

In magnesium and nitrogen, if they form a compound, magnesium tends to give away electrons, and nitrogen does the opposite, both reach the most stable electronic orientation as in a noble gas.
 

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