Solutions to a simple equation

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The discussion revolves around the existence of integer solutions to the equation a² + b² = c² + d², as well as related equations involving cubes, specifically a³ + b³ = x³ + y³. Participants explore both unique and non-unique solutions, and the conversation includes references to rational points on the unit circle.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant asks if there are integer (nonzero) solutions to the equation a² + b² = c² + d².
  • Another participant provides examples of solutions where a, b, c, and d are equal or have specific combinations, suggesting multiple solutions exist.
  • A different participant inquires about solutions where a, b, c, and d are unique and cites a specific example of unique solutions: 6² + 7² = 2² + 9².
  • One participant introduces the concept of rational points on the unit circle and presents a method to derive solutions based on these points, suggesting an infinite number of rational solutions.
  • Another participant references the famous example of 1729, attributed to Ramanujan, as a known solution to a³ + b³ = x³ + y³.
  • A follow-up question is posed regarding whether the equation a³ + b³ = x³ + y³ has an infinite number of solutions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of solutions, with some focusing on unique solutions while others highlight the existence of multiple or infinite solutions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the infinite nature of solutions for the cubic equation.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference specific mathematical properties and examples without resolving the broader implications or limitations of their claims. The discussion includes assumptions about the nature of integer and rational solutions.

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Are there integer (nonzero) solutions to this equation?

[tex]a^2 + b^2 = c^2 + d^2[/tex]
 
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yes, a=b=c=d=1, a=b=c=d=2, a=b=c=d=-1, etc.

Or if you like, a=1=c, b=-1=d. Or whatever combination you can think of.
 
Now that we've got that taken care of, how about solutions where a,b,c,d are unique?


EDIT: Nevermind, I found one [tex]6^2+7^2 = 2^2+9^2[/tex]
 
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let (a/b, c/d) and (x/y, z/w) be any two "rational points" on the unit circle, i.e. points both of whose coordinates are rational numbers.

then (a/b)^2 + (c/d)^2 = 1 = (x/y)^2 + (z/w)^2, and thus after


multiplying out the denominators we get y^2w^2[a^2 + c^2] = b^2d^2[x^2 + z^2]

which solves your problem.

now there are infinitely many rational points on the unit circle since you can
parametrize" the unit circle by projection from the north pole. i.e. join the point (0,1) to any rational point on the x axis. the line will meet the unit circle in a rational point. (a line with rational slope which meets the unit circle at one rational point, namely (0,1), also meets it at a second rational point.)

try this one: solve a^3 + b^3 = x^3 + y^3, two different ways.
 
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A very insightful explanation, much appreciated.

mathwonk said:
solve a^3 + b^3 = x^3 + y^3

When I was thinking about my problem, I suddenly remembered that Ramanujan knew that [tex]1729 = 9^3+10^3 = 1^3+12^3[/tex], so I figured mine had solutions too.
 
yes! that's the famous example i had in mind, supposedly provided by ramanujan to hardy in a taxicab, upon seeing the cabdrivers license number: 1729.

question: does a^3 + b^3 = x^3 + y^3, have an infinite number of solutions?
 

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