Maximizing Speed on a Snow-Covered Hill: Solving for Angle and Maximum Speed

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The problem involves a sled descending a frictionless, hemispherical snow-covered hill, focusing on energy conservation and forces acting on the sled. Participants are tasked with finding expressions for the sled's speed at a given angle and determining the conditions under which the sled leaves the surface of the hill.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply conservation of energy principles, noting the potential and kinetic energy at different points. Some participants suggest finding the height of the sled as a function of the angle theta, while others emphasize the role of centripetal acceleration and forces acting on the sled.

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Participants are actively discussing the relationships between potential energy, kinetic energy, and centripetal forces. Some have provided guidance on using Newton's laws and analyzing forces, while others are exploring the implications of the height function in relation to the angle.

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There is a focus on the assumptions of a frictionless surface and the need to analyze forces in a circular motion context. The angle theta is measured with respect to the vertical, which influences the height calculations.

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the problem states as this
it's a energy related problem

A sled starts from rest at the top of the frictionless, hemispherical snow-covered hill.
a)Find an expression for the sled's speed when it is at angle "theta"
b)Use Newton's laws to find the maximum speed the sled can have at angle "theta" without leaving the surface.
c)at what angle "theta"max does the sled "fly off" the hill?

since the surface is fristionless the energy is conserved we can say E at start = E at angle theta
now i realize at the top the sled has zero kinetic energy and Pe=mgR
and the at point "thete" Ke=1/2mV^2 and Pe=mgh

now at this point I am stuck and not sure what to do with all this data

thanks in advance
 

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Since only gravity is doing work, the potential energy of the sled is converted to kinetic energy.
Try to find the height of the sled as a function of theta.
 
Also remember that only gravity can provide the necessary centripetal acceleration..
 
Don't forget to use Newton's 2nd law to analyze the forces on the sled. Since it follows a circular path (until it leaves the surface), apply what you know about centripetal acceleration.
 
would the height be equal to h=r sin(theta)?
 
well considering centripedal forces i have
a=V^2/rsin theta
Fn-mg=ma
Fn-mg=mV^2/R sin theta
Fn=mg-mV^2/R sin theta
0=mg-mV^2/R sin theta
mV^2=mgRsin theta
V= sqrt(g Rsin theta)
 
vbtweakin said:
would the height be equal to h=r sin(theta)?
The angle is measured with respect to the vertical (in your diagram), so your height should have maximum value when the angle is zero. Does the sine function give you that?
 

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