Solving constraint equations [Term Paper, HELP ]

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving constraint equations related to materials selection analysis, specifically focusing on yield strength, mass, and deflection constraints for a hollow cylinder. Participants explore methods for visualizing these constraints and finding the ranges for variables involved.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Eugene presents three constraint equations involving wall thickness (X) and inner radius (Y) of a hollow cylinder, seeking methods to find the ranges that satisfy all conditions.
  • Some participants suggest simplifying the problem by plotting in 2D Cartesian coordinates instead of three dimensions.
  • There is a discussion about using software like MuPAD to plot implicit equations and inequalities, with Eugene expressing uncertainty about how to proceed with the software.
  • Eugene reports a breakthrough after receiving advice, indicating a positive response to the suggestion of a new perspective.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to visualize the constraints, but there is a divergence in approaches regarding the dimensionality of the plots and the software to use. The discussion remains unresolved on the best method to achieve the desired visualization.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include Eugene's unfamiliarity with the software and the specific methods for plotting the constraints in two dimensions. The discussion does not resolve the best approach to take.

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Solving constraint equations [Term Paper, HELP please]

Hi, I am new here. I'm not sure if this fits in calculus&analysis forum, but i figured its not really simple math so, please move it into approprieate area if deemed necessary...

I am doing materials selection analysis and my constraint equations came down to:

Yield strength constraint
Mass constraint
Deflection constraint

310000>25/(3.14*X*(X+2*Y))
3.3>.45*3.14*ρ*X*(X+2*Y)
0.002>(15*.09)/(12*220000000*X*(X+2*Y)*(((X+Y)^2)+(Y^2)))

where X is wall thickness of a hollow cyllinder and Y is its inner radius. All other constants are evaluated for simplicity. Basically I need to find the ranges for X and Y that satisfy all three conditions..

I plotted all 3 equations as surfaces equating them to Z, and got the general picture of behaviors, but now I need to cap the Z-values of each surface by the constraint values and look at the X-Y plane in 2D to find the required range... I have no idea what software would do this part and if i knew, HOW would i get it to do it...

ANY HELP IS GREATLY APPRECIATED! I am not stuck on this method, itd be kinda nice to get the result graphically, but at this point ANY method you would suggest would do just fine! My deadline is in a day, so I am really in a crunch here!

thanks in appreciation,

Eugene
 
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Why would you complicate matters by going to three dimensions? Plot them in 2D cartesian coordinates.

Many programs will plot implicit equations and some will plot implicit inequalities (MuPAD for example).
 
I'm sorry, I'm too slow right now.. How do you plot a function of three variables in two dimensions? All I need really is to plot them in two dimensions, but in such a way that only X and Y values that yield a value lower than the constraint are plotted... How do I do that?? I am downloading MuPAD currently if that would help (I have never worked with it though)

thanks,

Eugene
 
Tide! Thanks so much man, you reply was EXACTLY what I needed, just a new perspective, I cracked this like 20 minutes after I read what you wrote! You frigging saved me man :)))))))


Eugene
 

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