Surjective and bijective mapping

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concepts of surjective and bijective mappings, particularly in the context of Hilbert spaces. Participants explore the definitions and implications of these types of mappings, as well as their relevance in mathematical education.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants define a surjective mapping as one where for every element in the codomain, there exists a preimage in the domain.
  • Others describe a bijective mapping as one that is both injective and surjective, implying the existence of an inverse function.
  • One participant notes that the terminology of "one-to-one" and "onto" is often used interchangeably with injective and surjective, respectively.
  • There is a suggestion that the definitions of these mappings are typically covered in early undergraduate mathematics, raising questions about the educational background of the original poster.
  • A participant expresses surprise at not having encountered these definitions formally despite being in their third year of study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of surjective and bijective mappings, but there is some disagreement regarding the educational expectations and prior knowledge of these concepts among students at different levels.

Contextual Notes

Some participants indicate that the definitions may not have been formally taught to all students, suggesting variability in educational experiences. There is also an implication that familiarity with these concepts may depend on the specific curriculum followed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for undergraduate students in mathematics or related fields who are seeking clarification on the concepts of surjective and bijective mappings, as well as their applications in higher mathematics.

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Hi, can anyone tell me what a surjective mapping between Hilbertspaces is? That is: what does surjective mean? What about bijective?

I mean what is special about a mapping if it is sujective or bijective?
 
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A map f:X -> Y is

injective if f(x)=f(z) => x=z, ie for any point in the image there is a unique preimage.

surjective if for all y in Y there is an x in X such that f(x)=y

bijective if it is both injective and surjective


A map has an inverse iff it is bijective.

I don't understand how you've got to Hilbert Spaces without being taught this.
 
Thanks for fast reply...

I must have been away when they told us that.
 
It's just that the definition of inj and surj and hence bijection is 1st year undergrad maths, if not school, and hilbert spaces is 2nd or 3rd year undergraduate maths.
 
The terms "one-to-one" and "onto" are sometimes used for "injective" and "surjective".

A function from one set to another (doesn't have to be a Hilbert Space) is "injective" or "one-to-one" if and only if f(x)= f(y) implies x= y. In other words, only one value of x gives anyone value of y.

A function from one set to another is "surjective" or "onto" if and only if for every y in the range set, there exist x in the domain such that f(x)= y. In other words, there are no "left over" members of the range set.
 
Im in my third year now, and i never really heard the formal definition on this before. I came across the words in a book and i just wondered what they ment.

But anyway, this seams like a very good site.
 

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