Solving Hess' Law for C2H6 Combustion: kJ/mol

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The discussion revolves around calculating the standard enthalpy of combustion for ethane (C2H6) using Hess' Law. Participants are analyzing the provided enthalpy values and attempting to reconcile their calculations with a presumed answer, exploring the implications of different states of water in the combustion products.

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  • One participant presents a calculation for the enthalpy of combustion of C2H6, arriving at -1561 kJ/mol, and questions the validity of a presumed answer of -31561 kJ.
  • Another participant suggests that the discrepancy may be due to a typo in the provided answer.
  • A third participant proposes that the calculations may need to consider the enthalpy per mole, possibly involving Avogadro's number, to align with the units of kJ/mol.
  • A fourth participant notes that the heat of combustion is typically reported with water in the gaseous state (H2O(g)), raising a concern about the impact of using liquid water (H2O(l)) on the enthalpy value.

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Participants generally agree on the calculated value of -1561 kJ/mol, but there is no consensus on the presumed answer of -31561 kJ, which is considered likely to be a typo. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of the state of water in the combustion products.

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Participants express uncertainty about the correct interpretation of the enthalpy values and the potential need for adjustments based on the state of water, but do not resolve these issues definitively.

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Having some issues with this.

"What is the standard enthalpy of combustion of C2H6 in kj/mol?
H2(g) + 1/2O2(g) --> H2O(l) H0= –286 kJ
C2H4(g) + H2(g) --> C2H6(g) H0= –137 kJ
C2H4(g) + 3O2(g) --> 2CO2(g) + 2H2O(l) H0= –1412 kJ"

Now, the answer is presumedly -31561 kj. But I'm getting no where a number that close.

Since C2H6 is combusted, I want the end-result to be:
(2)C2H6 + (7)O2 --> (6)H2O + (4)CO2 (right?)
So I would turn around the 2nd one to:
C2H6(g) --> C2H4(g) + H2(g)
and then:
2 * [C2H6(g) --> C2H4(g) + H2(g) ]

2 * [H2(g) + (1/2)O2 --> H2O(l)]

2 * [C2H4(g) + 3O2(g) --> 2CO2(g) + 2H2O(l)]
Which gets me 3122 kJ, or 1561kj/mol.
Did I do something wrong? Miss a step? Where could the other 30,000 kj come from?
 
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Your answer (-1561 kJ/mol) seems to be right. There must be a typo in the provided answer.

Why are there question marks (?) at the end of each reaction in your question ?
 
I am not sure, but please look carefully the given data; they say kj, but want kj over moles. So you may have to multiply the findings with Avogadro's number to obtain how much enthalpy is needed for one mole.

Secondly, the numbers -31561 and -1561 are very close, except the 3 in thi first one; as Gokul said, a typo is probably present here.
 
I did this independently and got the same answer (H = -1561 kJ/mol), but I have one minor concern. Typically, the heat of combustion is specified for any hydrocarbon with the products being CO2 and H2O(g). You have H2O(l) in your equation, so I looked up the molar enthalphy of vaporization of water , but 3 moles of water certainly does not contribute 30,000 kJ, so that's not it.

Tooren, you've done everything correctly - don't worry.
 

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