What were the most influential ancient civilizations throughout history?

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The discussion revolves around identifying the most influential ancient civilizations throughout history, with participants proposing various criteria for evaluation across different time periods. The scope includes historical analysis and subjective assessments of civilizations based on quality of life, technological advancements, and moral practices.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests a list of civilizations categorized by specific time periods, indicating a structured approach to the discussion.
  • Another participant argues for the Roman Empire as the greatest civilization, citing its longevity and influence.
  • A different viewpoint highlights the continuity of Chinese empires over thousands of years, contrasting it with the later stages of the Roman Empire.
  • A request for clarification on the term "best" is made, prompting a discussion on the criteria for evaluation.
  • Criteria proposed for "best" include quality of life, technological advancements, medical progress, urban planning, sustainable development, and moral health.
  • Concerns are raised about the subjective nature of quality of life assessments, particularly regarding disparities among different social groups within civilizations.
  • One participant notes the historical challenge of achieving sustainable development, suggesting that civilizations have often depleted resources rather than maintained them.
  • A suggestion is made to use U.N. quality of life rankings as a potential measure for contemporary evaluations, though the reliability of such rankings is questioned.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on what constitutes the "best" civilization, with no consensus reached on the criteria or the civilizations themselves. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the subjective nature of the criteria for evaluation, the potential bias in quality of life assessments, and the complexity of historical comparisons across different civilizations and time periods.

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What were the best civilisations/country/empire/kingdom in:
1)before 1000B.C.
2)1000BC-500BC
3)500BC-250BC
4)250BC-0
5)0-500AD
6)500-1000AD
7)1000AD-1500AD
8)1500AD-1875AD
9)Now
 
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I think it is safe to say the Roman Empire was the greatest civilization ever. It lasted well over 2 thousand years from 752 BC to 1476AD
 
Well, by 1476 the Eastern Roman Empire was a Greek speaking oriental empire. By that standard there was just one (occasionally two) Chinese empire from Shang times to Sun Yat Sen, or around three thousand years.
 
Could elaborate on what you mean by "best"?
 
best- not in size but in the
1)quality of life of people
2)technological andvances
3)advancement in medicine
4)planning of cities
5)sustainable development
6)good practices and moral health of people
 
Your #1 and #6 will need some elaboration ... life was good in ancient Greece - except if you were a slave (in which case it was pretty horrible); life is pretty good in modern Saudi Arabia - except if you are a woman. So, how would you like to balance a wonderful quality of life for a few against a miserable quality of life for many?

On #5, I think it's accurate to say that there have been no 'civilizations' that were/are close to having 'sustainable development' - since the development of agriculture, it's been pretty much 'drawing down the capital account' for everyone.

Interesting exercise though, how would you expand each of these criteria into quasi-objective measures?
 
This is becoming interesting, but the question is not easily answered objectively, and I don't think a short answer can do justice to everyone. There are so many variables.

For 1) The U.N. comes out with a list each year ranking the quality of life in each country. Maybe that would qualify for 1 in the present, although even their system is probably very debatable.
 

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