Can the brain automate processing of emotions for a blind man?

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The discussion revolves around the ability of the brain to automate the processing of emotions in a blind individual, specifically focusing on a case study of 'patient X' who has experienced strokes affecting visual processing. The conversation touches on the implications of this phenomenon for understanding consciousness and cognitive automation.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants reference a case study of 'patient X' who, despite being blind, appears to process visual signals related to emotions using brain areas not typically associated with sight.
  • One participant expresses skepticism about the credibility of the report initially, but later acknowledges it may be valid.
  • Another participant emphasizes the credibility of the findings due to their publication in a reputable journal, Nature Neuroscience.
  • Warren proposes that different neurons may be responsible for processing body language and facial expressions compared to those that create direct visual imagery, suggesting a distinction in neural processing.
  • Warren also connects this discussion to broader implications about consciousness, arguing that much of human behavior may not require conscious thought, which could challenge common perceptions of consciousness.
  • Another participant suggests that cognitive scientists generally believe the brain aims to automate tasks to conserve energy, using the example of learning to drive as a process that transitions from conscious control to automation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of skepticism and support regarding the credibility of the findings. While some find the report credible, others remain uncertain. The discussion also reveals differing views on the implications of the brain's ability to automate emotional processing and its relationship to consciousness.

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Participants do not fully resolve the implications of the findings for understanding consciousness, and there are varying interpretations of the relationship between emotional processing and cognitive automation.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying cognitive science, neuroscience, psychology, and philosophy, particularly in relation to consciousness and emotional processing.

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...The man, identified only as 'patient X', has suffered two strokes which damaged the brain areas that process visual signals, leaving him completely blind.

But his eyes and optic nerves are intact and brain scans show that he appears to somehow use a part of the brain not usually used for sight to process visual signals linked to some emotions. ...published in journal Nature Neuroscience... [continued]
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200412/s1263470.htm
 
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I read about it in a Russian Sci-Fi magazine, and disregarded it as baloney. I guess I was wrong.
 
It seems to be a credible report... I hope...
 
If it's published in Nature Neuroscience, it's credible. That's a top tier journal.
 
It sounds reasonable that the neurons that process body language and facial expression are different than those that produce direct imagery made up of lines and shapes and colors.

- Warren
 
is envy really green?
I'll bet love is orange
 
chroot said:
It sounds reasonable that the neurons that process body language and facial expression are different than those that produce direct imagery made up of lines and shapes and colors.

- Warren
This is similar to another thread about consciousness and humans: people aren't going to like it, but this suggests to me that a lot of what is normally attributed to human consciousness is, in fact, just the way our brains are wired. It shouldn't be surprising (I used the example of "highway hypnosis"), but people don't like the idea that most of what we do does not require conscious thought.

This has broad philosophical/spiritual implications.
 
Russ,

I think it's actually a common belief among cognitive scientists that the human brain actually strives to automate as much as possible. When you're learning to drive, the task requires continuous conscious control, which is tiring and uses up a lot of energy. As you learn to drive, the brain learns to automates more and more of the task, thus making more efficient use of resources. Your brain doesn't like to waste expensive conscious thought on tasks that can be easily automated.

- Warren
 

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