The Final Solution to the Healthcare Crisis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proposal of allowing the sale of human organs as a solution to the healthcare crisis. Participants explore the implications of this idea, including ethical considerations, economic impacts, and the potential effects on different socioeconomic groups.

Discussion Character

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that allowing the sale of human organs could solve the healthcare crisis by increasing the supply of organs and providing financial support to impoverished donors.
  • Another participant questions the number of redundant organs humans possess, suggesting that only a few organs can be considered superfluous.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for the rich to monopolize organ trade, with one participant predicting negative outcomes from such a system.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the sale of organs could also benefit the upper middle class and help lower-income individuals pay for medical care through bartering with redundant organs.
  • One participant expresses a willingness to support organ donation if financial considerations are removed from the equation.
  • Another participant advocates for organ donation as a compassionate act, emphasizing the continuation of life through donated organs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on the proposal, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea of organ sales as a solution, while others raise ethical concerns and predict negative consequences.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the ethical implications of organ sales, the economic dynamics involved, and the potential impact on various social classes. There are unresolved questions regarding the feasibility and morality of trading human organs.

Don't you think it's compassionate to allow trade of human organs?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 71.4%
  • No

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Yes, but not my organs!!

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    7
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The "Final Solution" to the Healthcare Crisis

Make no mistake, we can solve the health care crisis fairly. All it takes is a little thinking outside the box. Say for example, that you had broken your wrist and needed it to be set properly by a qualified physician. If you did not have health insurance, you'd be screwed. Likewise, say for example you had destroyed your vital organs with years of substance abuse, yet you can't get a transplant organ because they are scarce- nobody wants to give them up for free.

Ladies and gentlemen I have your solution. trade the un-necessary, redundant organs that are cluttering up your physique for vital life-saving surgery! Mankind invented the concept of money for a reason-- not not have to be encumbered by things un-necessary for survival. Why not solve two problems at one time? Allow for the sale of human organs. Poor sick people will be able to pay their medical bills, while enabling the lifestyles of the rich and degenerate. The free sale of organs would increase the supply, shortening the wait and sometimes needless deaths of people in need of them. It would also provide plenty of capital to impoverished donors desperately in need of medical care, but unable to afford it.

Don't you think it's compassionate to allow the free trade of human organs?
 
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Exactly how many superfluous organs do humans have, by your estimation? You can live without one of your kidneys, and maybe without one of your lungs, and part of your liver can grow back if removed, but beyond that, I can't think of anything.
 
Using Simple economic theory I can predict that this would simple further enable the rich to achieve monopoly over human organs. I can see no good coming of this, only the ability for the social elite to start directly trading with human lives.
 
Smurf said:
Using Simple economic theory I can predict that this would simple further enable the rich to achieve monopoly over human organs. I can see no good coming of this, only the ability for the social elite to start directly trading with human lives.
It would enable far more than just "the rich." It would help the upper middle class. Medical technology provides the possibility to save lives providing that the raw materials are available. The sale of organs and other organic material such as bone marrow is already practiced, just not legalized. I contend that it would help the lower middle class and the impoverished pay for their medical bills if they could barter with redundant organs, or accept a lein on specific organs if they died, in order to pay for basic medical care. The alternative is that they must rely on charitable care, "underground" clinics, or worse, no care at all.
 
Extract money from the equation and I'm in.
 
being an organ donor is a step in the right direction. some feel strange about that, but if you find death at an early healthy age, why do you need organs and tissue that can help another person? in a sense, part of you is continuing on... :biggrin: i am an organ donor for this reason quite frankly.
 

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