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Jan30-12, 06:13 PM   #1
 

Uncountable interval.


1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
show that the interval (0,1) is uncountable iff [itex] \mathbb{R} [/itex]
is uncountable.
3. The attempt at a solution
Can I take the interval (0,1) and multiply it by a large number and then a large number and eventually extend it to the whole real line. So now (0,1) can be mapped to the whole real line. Then can I use cantors diagonal argument to show that the real line is uncountable?
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Jan30-12, 06:23 PM   #2

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1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data
show that the interval (0,1) is uncountable iff [itex] \mathbb{R} [/itex]
is uncountable.
3. The attempt at a solution
Can I take the interval (0,1) and multiply it by a large number and then a large number and eventually extend it to the whole real line. So now (0,1) can be mapped to the whole real line. Then can I use cantors diagonal argument to show that the real line is uncountable?
They are probably just looking for a 1-1 function between (0,1) and the real line. 'multiply it by a large number' isn't going to get you there. Can't you think of any functions that map the real line to an open interval?
Jan30-12, 06:27 PM   #3
 
tan(x), will that work
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Uncountable interval.


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tan(x), will that work
tan(x) will map (-pi/2,pi/2) to R, right? Can you fix the function up so the interval is (0,1) instead of (-pi/2,pi/2)?
Jan30-12, 06:35 PM   #5
 
can i divide everything in the interval by pi and then shift it to the right by 1/2
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can i divide everything in the interval by pi and then shift it to the right by 1/2
You CAN do anything you want if it works. Try it and see. What's your answer for a function mapping (0,1) to R?
Jan30-12, 07:26 PM   #7
 
okay so [itex] tan(\pi(x-\frac{\pi}{2})) [/itex] should do the trick for the mapping.
at this point can I show the reals are uncountable.
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okay so [itex] tan(\pi(x-\frac{\pi}{2})) [/itex] should do the trick for the mapping.
at this point can I show the reals are uncountable.
Well, that's a 1-1 correspondence between (0,1) and R alright. Edit: Oh, wait. Don't you mean [itex] tan(\pi(x-\frac{1}{2})) [/itex]? Try the endpoints again.
Jan31-12, 04:45 PM   #9
 
ok ya your right. so now that have a one-to-one correspondence between (0,1) and the real line.
If I show that the real line is uncountable using cantors diagonal arguement. will that complete the proof. Thanks for your help by the way.
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