Multipole Expansion of Dipole on Z-Axis w/ Spherical Harmonics

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The discussion revolves around the multipole expansion of a dipole positioned along the z-axis, specifically focusing on the use of spherical harmonics to identify non-vanishing multipoles. The original poster presents a challenge related to the charge density representation using Dirac delta functions in spherical polar coordinates.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the formulation of charge density in spherical coordinates and question how to handle the azimuthal angle when both x and y coordinates are zero. There is discussion about the implications of azimuthal symmetry in the context of the dipole's charge distribution.

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The conversation includes attempts to clarify the nature of the dipole's symmetry and its representation in spherical coordinates. Some participants have provided insights regarding the azimuthal symmetry of the charge distribution, while others are still seeking to understand the implications of this symmetry on the problem at hand.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the treatment of the azimuthal angle in the context of a dipole aligned with the z-axis, particularly when using spherical coordinates. The discussion reflects a need for further exploration of the assumptions related to symmetry in this setup.

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given a dipole on z-axis(+q at z=a and -q at z= -a) , find out the non vanishing multipoles using spherical harmonics.
can somebody tell me how to do this problem using spherical harmonics..because when we write charge density using dirac delta function in spherical polar coordinates. then we get
phi = tan^-1 (0/0) because x and y coordinates for both the charges are zero.
 
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Please show your work. I can't really tell what you're doing.
 
In spherical polar coordinates charge density can be written as Ʃqi*δ(r-ri)*δ(θ-θi)*δ(∅-∅i).
where ∅=tan^-1(y/x) . since its a dipole on z-axis therefore ∅'=tan^-1(0/0) . i don't know how to deal with this form of ∅.
 
You can pick an arbitrary angle since it doesn't matter anyway when ##\theta = 0\text{ or }\pi##.
 
does that mean its ∅ independent? i.e. it has azimuthal symmetry.
 
Yes, the charge distribution is azimuthally symmetric.
 
ok..thanks a lot
 
Generally a surface which is symmetric about z-axis is s.t.b azimuthally symmetric like a sphere as we can easily see its symmetric. How can a dipole along z-axis be azimuthally symmetric?
 
Does the dipole look different if you rotate the system about the z-axis?
 
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ok..now its clear.
thankyou.
 
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shikhapunia said:
In spherical polar coordinates charge density can be written as Ʃqi*δ(r-ri)*δ(θ-θi)*δ(∅-∅i).
where ∅=tan^-1(y/x) . since its a dipole on z-axis therefore ∅'=tan^-1(0/0) . i don't know how to deal with this form of ∅.

a point charge in spherical coordinates is given by [itex]\rho(r,\theta,\phi)=q\delta(r-r_q)\delta(\theta-\theta_q)\delta(\phi-\phi_q)/(r^2\sin\theta)[/itex]
 
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oh! yeah..thanks
 

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