Compressed Air Car: Moving 70kg Person w/ 135 PSI Tank

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The discussion centers on calculating the distance a compressed air car can travel using a 135 PSI tank with a volume of 10 gallons, carrying a total mass of 80 kg. The calculations reveal that the work done by the compressed air is approximately 78,500 Joules. Given a frictional force of 400 N, the vehicle could theoretically travel about 200 meters if it operates at 100% efficiency. The conversation also touches on the potential benefits of adding water to the system for increased propulsion.

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I'm building a compressed air car that will move a 70 kg person and I'm wondering how far it can go off a 135 PSI tank with 10 gallons. The vehicle should have a mass of at most 80 kg and I'm trying to figure out how to do calculations with a coefficient of friction of 0.5. Can anyone help me figure out how far I can propel this vehicle?
 
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Unknown2x said:
I'm building a compressed air car that will move a 70 kg person and I'm wondering how far it can go off a 135 PSI tank with 10 gallons. The vehicle should have a mass of at most 80 kg and I'm trying to figure out how to do calculations with a coefficient of friction of 0.5. Can anyone help me figure out how far I can propel this vehicle?
Another way of asking this question is: how much work can a 135 psi, 10 gallon volume of air do at an ambient 1 atmosphere pressure?

The first law of thermodynamics (conservation of energy) says that the amount of work you done by a gas:
[tex]Work = \int Fdl = \int (F/A)(A dl) = \int Pdv[/tex]
is equal to the heat energy added ([itex]\Delta Q[/itex]) - change in internal energy of the gas (PV).

As the gas expands, it will pick up heat from the environment and remain at the ambient temperature. So the change in internal energy of the gas will be zero.

The relationship between PV and temperature is PV = nRT or P=nrT/V, where n is number of moles of gas, R is the gas constant and T is the temperature (in Kelvin).

[tex]Work = \int_i^f Pdv = nR\int_i^f \frac{T}{V}dv[/tex]

At constant temperature, nRT is constant so [itex]nRT = P_iV_i[/itex]. So:
[tex]Work = P_iV_i\int_i^f \frac{1}{V}dv = P_iV_i ln\frac{V_f}{V_i}[/tex]

Now let's do your problem. First, let's convert to MKS. Life is to short to work in psi and gallons. 10 gallon = 37.84 l = .03784 m^3; 135 psi = 9.5 kg/cm^2 = 9.3E5 Pa(N/m^2)
P_i = 9.3E5 Pa
P_f = 1E5Pa
V_i = .03784 m^3
v_f/v_i = P_i/P_f = 9.3

So:
Work = 9.3E5 x .03784 ln(9.3) = 3.52E4 x 2.23 = 7.85E4 J.

That is the amount of work that the compressed air is capable of doing. To work out how far that will move you, with a normal force of 80 kg (800 N) and a coefficient of friction of .5 (why is it so high - don't you have wheels?) you will have about 400 N force of friction, so you will consume 400 J/m. So you could go about 200 m., assuming your car was 100 percent efficient in converting compressed air energy into useable work. But I would first check your friction figure.

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Im just wondering, Unknown2x, are you going to fill that half with water, because if it has water it tends to propel it much further than using just raw air (based on practical water rocket work). How would you work out the physics for that if it has water in it?
Thanks :)
 

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