The Need for Drivers in CD-ROMs and Peripherals

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the need for drivers in CD-ROMs and other peripherals compared to floppy drives and hard disks, particularly in the context of system boot-up processes and standardization of device drivers.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why floppy drives and hard disks do not require drivers during boot-up, while CD-ROMs do.
  • Another participant asserts that hard drives and floppy drives do require drivers, but they are standardized due to their critical role in booting.
  • A participant clarifies that their question pertains specifically to boot-up functionality, noting that floppy drives can read without special drivers, unlike CD-ROMs.
  • Some participants mention that floppy drives larger than 1.44 MB have existed but did not gain popularity due to cost and limited size advantages.
  • One participant states that Windows OS includes generic drivers for devices when official drivers are absent.
  • Another participant argues that a system without an operating system can still access disk drives through BIOS, which does not require drivers for basic I/O functions.
  • A participant shares personal experience that CD-ROMs can be problematic without drivers.
  • There is mention of network booting capabilities with certain Ethernet cards, indicating that some devices can operate without an OS.
  • Another participant notes that USB devices are increasingly standardized and integrated into BIOS over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of drivers for various devices during boot-up, with some asserting that basic I/O functions do not require drivers, while others emphasize the role of drivers in functionality. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specifics of driver requirements for different peripherals.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding assumptions about the role of BIOS and the standardization of drivers, as well as the historical context of floppy disk sizes and their adoption.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring computer hardware, operating systems, and the evolution of peripheral devices.

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How come floppy drives and hard disk don't need any drivers whereas CD-ROMs and other peripherals do?
 
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Check your device manager: hard drives and floppies do require drivers, its just that since they are so important to booting, they are all the same. CD-Roms have made the jump to that level of standardization and now no longer require special drivers to operate - they all use the same drivers in windows and all are capable of being booted from.
 
My question was more specific to the boot up. Like why floppy drives could read when you turn on the computer but cd-roms needed special drivers. Anyway, you answered my question.

However why have floppy drives never been bigger than 1.44 MB?
 
I had seen Sony floppy with 2.8 MB in singapore, but it was not popular.
Now all people are using thumbdrive, floppy is only usefull for boot up.
 
FulhamFan3 said:
However why have floppy drives never been bigger than 1.44 MB?

There have been floppy drives bigger than 1.44 MB. They just never really caught on. Initially they didn't often that much of a size advantage over 1.44 MB disks, and they usually cost more per byte than just buying the equivalent amount of 1.44 MB disks.
 
Windows OS comes loaded with many generic drivers that it can use if an official driver isn't present.
 
Windows OS is not present at system power-on.
 
No. A system without an operating system can still access disk drives (floppy, cd-rom, etc). Device drivers are not needed for basic I/O functions such as floppys, cd-roms, keyboard, moniter, etc. This is done through the BIOs which is why you have access to these drives during system power-on even if an operating system isn't present.

After the BIOs loads and finishes POST it looks for the MBR (Master Boot Record) to see if a operating system is present on the HDD. If it finds one, it begins to load the OS. If it doesn't, it nags.

However, through my experience, some devices (cd-rom's usually) can be a royal pain in the arse without drivers.


Ryan

Edit: And I don't know why I said 'No'. But I'm leaving it there for personal reasons. :)
 
Your ethernet card (some manufs.) will work also without an OS. Check your card if it is PXE compliant then you can boot from the network. Really handy for doing remote OS refreshes or installs
 
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And USB too - as time goes by, more and more devices get standardized and written into bios.
 
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i just bought a seagate 250 GB. Huge!
 

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