Finding Specific Heat of 2 substances mixed

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The discussion revolves around an experiment involving the determination of the specific heat of a substance when mixed with water. The original poster describes heating a substance and measuring the temperature change when mixed with water, seeking to find the specific heat in kilojoules per kilogram per degree Celsius.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss equating the heat lost by the substance to the heat gained by the water, with various attempts to calculate the specific heat. There are questions about the units used in calculations and the correct conversion factors for specific heat.

Discussion Status

There are multiple interpretations of the calculations being performed, with some participants providing guidance on unit conversions and the correct values to use for specific heat. The discussion reflects a mix of confusion and attempts to clarify the methodology without reaching a consensus on the final answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of using the correct units for specific heat and the potential confusion arising from different unit systems. There is also mention of the constraints imposed by the multiple-choice format of the problem.

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In an experiment, .02 kg of substance is heated in a bath of boiling water until its temperature is apporoximately 100*C. The substance is the placed in an insulated container that is holding .10 kg of water at 25*C. The final equilibrium temperature of the mixture is 32*C. The specific heat of substance, in kilojoules kilogram . degree Celsius, is.


I tried making the change of heat of the substance equal to change of heat of wate, but that didnt give me the right awnser, I know this because it is a multiple choice awnser. I would really appreciate help on this. Thxs before hand.
 
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Oops, that title is so wrong, suppose to be, Finding Specific Heat of Substance. What was I thinking. :mad:
 
cdhotfire said:
In an experiment, .02 kg of substance is heated in a bath of boiling water until its temperature is apporoximately 100*C. The substance is the placed in an insulated container that is holding .10 kg of water at 25*C. The final equilibrium temperature of the mixture is 32*C. The specific heat of substance, in kilojoules kilogram . degree Celsius, is.


I tried making the change of heat of the substance equal to change of heat of wate, but that didnt give me the right awnser, I know this because it is a multiple choice awnser. I would really appreciate help on this. Thxs before hand.

That should work... what are the answers available?
 
A. 2.16
B. 2.095
C. 2.57
D. 4.19
E. 1.0
 
cdhotfire said:
A. 2.16
B. 2.095
C. 2.57
D. 4.19
E. 1.0

I got 2.16...
 
I did:
(.02 kg)(68*C)c=(.1 kg)(1)(7*C)

and got c= .5147
 
How did your get 2.16?
 
cdhotfire said:
I did:
(.02 kg)(68*C)c=(.1 kg)(1)(7*C)

and got c= .5147

you got the answer in calories/(K*kg) multiply it by the specific heat of water in KJ
 
I don't understand.
 
  • #10
My answer is "A".Post your work.

Daniel.
 
  • #11
I did...
 
  • #12
cdhotfire said:
I don't understand.

That "1" in the formula for heat absorbed by water.It's 1 calory.It should be in [itex]KJ Kg^{-1}K^{-1}[/itex]

Daniel.
 
  • #13
For the specific heat of water, use 4.19kJ/(K*kg) instead of 1 calorie/(K*kg)
 
  • #14
So its

(.02 kg)(68*C)c=(.1)(7*C)(1 ?)

what is the specific heat measured in, isn't cal/g*C?
 
  • #15
cdhotfire said:
I obiously don't care what letter it is, I want to know how to do it.

If you actually read between the line... you would notice that we've actually told you how to do it...

Dextercioby, should we consider helping someone this rude?
 
  • #16
cdhotfire said:
I obiously don't care what letter it is, I want to know how to do it.

Okay,u did it fine,but put wrong units.If u put instead of calories [itex]KJ Kg^{-1}K^{-1}[/itex],your answer will coincide with the one at point "a".


Daniel.
 
  • #17
apchem, I posted that before, because, dex said i got A, and told me to post my work. I said I did post it, and I didnt really care what the letter awnser was.

Anyways thxs for the help, didnt mean to be rude.
 
  • #18
Use the 4.19 in the place of 1... since that is the correct unit not 1 calorie/(K*kg)
 
  • #19
cdhotfire said:
So its

(.02 kg)(68*C)c=(.1)(7*C)(1 ?)

what is the specific heat measured in, isn't cal/g*C?

Yes,it's just that u need to express it in KJ/Kg*C (or Kelvin,they are the same thing,just scaling is different).

Daniel.
 
  • #20
I c how, 1 cal/g*C= 4.184 J/kg*C, correct?

Oops, 4.184 is already in KJ, I just noticed, that 1 cal/g*C=4184 J/kg*C. Thats what's started this whole question.

Well thxs for all the help, and again I didn't mean to be rude. :smile:
 
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  • #21
cdhotfire said:
I c how, 1 cal/g*C= 4.184 J/kg*C, correct?

but even still, it ask for the awnser in kilojoules. Wouldnt I multiply it by 1000?

nahh... 1 calorie = 4.184 J... so multiply the answer by 4.184 and see what you get...
 
  • #22
cdhotfire said:
I c how, 1 cal/g*C= 4.184 J/kg*C, correct?

but even still, it ask for the awnser in kilojoules. Wouldnt I multiply it by 1000?

Yes u would have to multiply it.Else your answer would be in J/Kg*C instead of KJ/Kg*C

Daniel.
 
  • #23
Srry for the confusion, I changed my post. :smile:
 
  • #24
dextercioby said:
Yes u would have to multiply it.Else your answer would be in J/Kg*C instead of KJ/Kg*C

Daniel.

first of all Its 4.184J/g*K(orC)

and if you convert it to 4.184kJ/kg*K(orC)

you don't need to multiply by anything. so thus... only need to muliply by 4.184
 
  • #25
cdhotfire said:
Srry for the confusion, I changed my post. :smile:

I see your change... well then you will have to divide by 1000 and multiply by 4184 to your original answer of 0.516
 

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