Autonomous Differential Equations: Equilibrium Solution and Deviation Equation

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The problem involves analyzing a differential equation of the form dy/dt = ay - b, specifically focusing on finding the equilibrium solution and the deviation from that solution. The subject area is differential equations, particularly autonomous equations and their equilibrium points.

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  • The original poster attempts to clarify the meaning of the equilibrium solution y_e and expresses confusion regarding its determination based on the parameter a. Some participants question the assumptions made about the behavior of the solution as t approaches infinity, particularly whether a must be negative for equilibrium to exist. Others suggest that the general solution should not diverge and explore the implications of different values of a on the equilibrium solution.

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There is an ongoing discussion about the assumptions regarding the parameter a and its effect on the equilibrium solution. Participants are also considering the implications of the general solution's behavior as time progresses, which may affect the interpretation of the problem.

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The problem is

Consider the differential equation [tex]dy/dt=ay-b[/tex].
a) Find the equilibrium solution [tex]y_e[/tex].
b)Let [tex]Y(t)=y-y_e[/tex]; thus [tex]Y(t)[/tex] is the deviation from the equilbrium solution. Find the differential equation satisfied by [tex]Y(t)[/tex].

For part a I am confused as to what is meant by [tex]y_e[/tex].
The general solution is
[tex]y=Ce^{at}+\frac{b}{a}[/tex]
I thought that the equilibrium is just the value that will be approached as t increases without bound. So in this case it depends on the values of a. If a>0 then there is no equilibruim solution. How can I answer part a then?

So without anywhere to go I made the assumption that [tex]y_e[/tex] is meant to mean the [tex]y(e)=y_e[/tex] in which case I come up with.
[tex]Ce^{ae}+\frac{b}{a}=y_e[/tex]


So if this in fact the equilibrium solution [tex]y_e[/tex] then for part b I have
[tex]Y(t)=y-y_e[/tex]

[tex]Y(t)=Ce^{at}+\frac{b}{a}-\left( Ce^{ae}+\frac{b}{a} \right)[/tex]

[tex]Y(t)=ce^{at}-ce^{ae}[/tex]

Which is really like any our first diff eq but in this case the [tex]\frac{b}{a}=-ce^{ae}[/tex] But the constant C makes our value for b/a unknown. Obviously I have something wrong here and I think its because I do not understand what the question is really asking.

Thanks for any help
 
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Townsend said:
So without anywhere to go I made the assumption that [tex]y_e[/tex] is meant to mean the [tex]y(e)=y_e[/tex] in which case I come up with.
[tex]Ce^{ae}+\frac{b}{a}=y_e[/tex]


So if this in fact the equilibrium solution [tex]y_e[/tex] then for part b I have
[tex]Y(t)=y-y_e[/tex]

[tex]Y(t)=Ce^{at}+\frac{b}{a}-\left( Ce^{ae}+\frac{b}{a} \right)[/tex]

[tex]Y(t)=ce^{at}-ce^{ae}[/tex]

Which is really like any our first diff eq but in this case the [tex]\frac{b}{a}=-ce^{ae}[/tex] But the constant C makes our value for b/a unknown. Obviously I have something wrong here and I think its because I do not understand what the question is really asking.

is definitely wrong.You made a point.The general solution to the equation
[tex]y(x)=Ce^{at}-\frac{b}{a}[/tex]

must not diverge for asymptotic behavior...Which means that "a" must be negative...Find the equilibrium solution and then the function expressing the "deviation" from equilibrium...

Daniel.

PS.The diff.eq. will b very simple...
 
Ok, well if know that a<0 then the equilibruim is going to be [tex]\frac{b}{a}[/tex]
So then [tex]Y(t)=Ce^{at}[/tex]
and
[tex]\frac{dY}{dt}=ay[/tex]

You said the diff.eq. will be b,I am not sure how you got that.

sorry, I am trying to understand.

Thanks
 
That "b" was "be"... :-p You got the picture. :smile: The diff.eq.may be put under the form which would definitely show the asymptotic behavior,namely make the substitution
[tex]a\rightarrow -|a|[/tex]

Daniel.
 

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