How do I prove the integration equation for continuous function f?

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The discussion revolves around proving an integration equation involving a continuous function f. Participants explore methods to demonstrate the equality of two integrals, focusing on differentiation, integration by parts, and the treatment of variables within the integrals.

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  • One participant suggests differentiating both sides of the equation with respect to x as a potential method for proof.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the notation and the role of the variable u, questioning whether it should be treated as a constant.
  • Several participants mention integrating the left-hand side by parts as a possible approach to the problem.
  • One participant outlines their steps for the left side, breaking it down into separate integrals and attempting to derive a relationship to the right side.
  • There is a clarification that x is independent of u, which is emphasized as an important aspect of the problem.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to prove the equation, and multiple methods are proposed without agreement on their effectiveness or correctness.

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Some participants express uncertainty regarding the notation and the treatment of variables, indicating potential limitations in understanding the problem setup. There are also unresolved mathematical steps in the proposed solutions.

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Can someone help me with this question? gladly appreciate any help on this :smile:

Suppose f is continuous. Prove that

[tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(x-u) du =[/tex][tex]\int_0^{x}[/tex] ( [tex]\int_0^{u} f(t) dt[/tex]) du.
 
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differentiate both sides wrt x.
 
trap said:
Can someone help me with this question? gladly appreciate any help on this :smile:

Suppose f is continuous. Prove that

[tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(x-u) du =[/tex][tex]\int_0^{x}[/tex] ( [tex]\int_0^{u} f(t) dt[/tex]) du.

I don't ever understand how you write these out

do you mean [tex]\int_0^{x} (x-u) dx[/tex]

to me for some reason it always seems like you write in weird form, but maybe its just me.

also for that what I wrote above for the solution wouldn't you just substitute, but is the u susposed to be a constant or what? I am confused sorry.
 
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You can also integrate the left hand side by parts.
 
shmoe said:
You can also integrate the left hand side by parts.
oh ok i see what he was asking now... so x is a constant?
 
digink said:
oh ok i see what he was asking now... so x is a constant?

x is independent of u, that's what's important here. You can think of both sides as a function of x if you like.
 
thx ppl for the help, I'm trying to solve it now
 
for the left side, this is how i did,

[tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(x-u) du[/tex]
= [tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(x) - f(u)u du[/tex]
= [tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(x) du -[/tex] [tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(u) du[/tex]
= x [tex]\int_0^{x} f(u) du -[/tex] [tex]\int_0^{x} f(u)(u) du[/tex]

and then derive it..

= x f(x) - xf(0) - f(x)x
=-xf(0)

is what I'm doing right now correct?
if so, can someone help me on how to make this equal to the right side?
 
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