Scientific take on telekinesis

Snip3r

i recently came across stan lee's superhumans in which a man claims to have telekinetic powers. Although i couldnt believe most of the super human abilities shown atleast i could convince myself they were possible under established laws of physics. But this one clearly threw me away. Earlier i thought telekinesis were illusions performed by magicians. now i am more skeptic. i spent a lot of time on net to know the scientific basis of telekinesis but to no avail. Also i found on wikipedia if this exists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychok...cientific_view it will contradict some well established laws of physics like inverse square law and 2nd law of thermodynamics can some one please explain me about this? Please feel free to move this to appropriate forum topic as i am not sure. I m literally dying for an answer

thx

DaveC426913

No, you're figuratively dying for an answer.

What exactly is your question? Is telekinesis real? So far no one seems to have come forth with convincing evidence of it. If someone could do it, there's a LOT of money in it for them. Do you know of any test cases with convincing evidence?

Snip3r

lol!

Yes i wanna know if its really possible? i dont have any evidence other than what i saw on TV what made me worry is i couldnt brush it aside as it was shown in one of the prominent channels "history tv" (would they really make money showing some scams?)

micromass

No.

Oh, the prominent history channel. You mean, the same guys who produce things like ancient aliens?? I don't really think that they are the most believable source out there...

OmCheeto

They make money by airing programs that people find entertaining.
I canceled my cable years ago.

I see I haven't missed much.

What did I hear on the radio the other day? The National Geographic Channel is chasing aliens?

The Mayans were right. The Earth is doomed.

Snip3r

today i saw it on discovery. also saw a man with similar ability called by them as 'human stun gun' who knocks out people without touching them. seriously i am confused

Snip3r

what does that mean?they are cheating people to earn money?

btw I see both of them in guinness record

phinds

Absolutely. They produce shows that are full of pure garbage because people will watch them and thus advertisers will pay for them.

Snip3r

i am stunned. Is there any credible source out there in media btw?

Ryan_m_b

There is no way that telekinesis could work in our current understanding of physics and biology. There simply is no mechanism for thought processes to move something without using an intervening body.

Also there has never been a proper observation of any super/psychic/magic power and they have been looked into extensively. If even 0.001% of all the claims out there regarding people who can read minds, see the future, move objects, talk to the dead etc etc were true then we would have thousands of case studies wherein people can just turn up to a controlled environment and perform a simple task well within their powers and bingo we'd have evidence. As it is you only ever see these people demonstrating their "powers" on TV shows whose purpose is to entertain you so that they can make money off of advertising. Ask yourself; if those TV mediums were actually real then you could just put one in one room, one in another, get the first to pass on a message to a nearby ghost and ask it to pass it along to the other. Simple tests like that have been done and every time people fail. James Randi has dedicated his life to looking into these things and even with his very simple challenge no-one has ever demonstrated anything.

A good indication of this is this clip of Randi debunking a famous psychic who claimed to have telekinetic powers. It's brilliant, the psychic demonstrates his power for the audience, Randi modifies the test in a tiny way that would reveal any foul play and suddenly he can't do it.

phinds

No. Not in the popular media. BBC and CNN are relatively free from the garbage but ONLY relatiavely, not absolutely. There was a thread here a few weeks ago about utter crap on CNN. I have not personally experienced anything really awful on BBC (the TV show or the web site).

ALL of the more popular channels (History, Discovery, etc) are just full of nonsense when it comes to hard science. The have occasional facts thrown in, probably because they don't know any better or they'd get it wrong all of the time.

They DO have really pretty graphics though.

Oh, and Morgan Freeman has a terrific voice. (too bad the writers fill it with garbage)

someGorilla

Funny how all of these people only use their superpowers for futile purposes. Snip3r, if you had telekinesis would you spend your time levitating pencils or bending spoons on tv? What a sad life!
I had a discussion with a guy who wanted to convince me he had seen some Indian guru produce gold powder from his fingers. Why gold powder I asked him, what's it good for? Of course gold symbolizes wealth, luxury, beauty, even purity, so that's why. But why doesn't he produce something more valuable from his fingers, for example DUNG? It would be useful to fertilize the fields. But it wouln't have the same appeal on the masses I fear. If you could produce matter from your fingers, would you make gold powder to be dispersed into the wind?
He answered I was overrationalizing. *shrug*

phinds

I think people who believe in telekenesis are the kind of people who never stop to think about why it is that aliens always seem to land in some pig farmers south forty and disappear before the media show up.

micromass

Watch this:

Evo

LOL!! His toungue was in the wrong place. Yeah right. Or maybe he moved his toes. Uh-huh.

Jimmy

Ha! That's what I tell my dad when he has trouble with a fiddly device.

Reminds me of these guys:

Snip3r

thanks for that link i was rofl hearing the reason.too bad this video is not gonna be popular among the masses

i wonder if mainstream physics can survive the battle of natural selection