Michelson Interferometer and white light fringes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the observation of white light fringes in a Michelson Interferometer experiment, specifically addressing the presence of a central black fringe and the phase shifts involved in the process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the origin of the central black fringe, noting a phase shift of pi is introduced in one of the beams but seeks clarification on where this shift occurs.
  • Another participant suggests that the phase shift results from differing distances to parts of the screen from the two beams, leading to cancellation at specific conditions.
  • A participant corrects the initial claim about the interferometer's design, stating it uses mirrors and a beam splitter rather than slits, and expresses confusion about which reflection causes the phase shift.
  • Discussion includes the effect of varying the arm length on the central fringe, with one participant noting it should alternate between dark and bright.
  • Participants inquire about the type of beamsplitter used and the necessity of a compensator, discussing the implications of different beamsplitter designs on the experiment.
  • One participant explains that a pi phase shift occurs when an electromagnetic wave reflects off a surface with a higher index of refraction, detailing the paths of the beams in the interferometer.
  • Another participant mentions that perfect alignment of the interferometer typically produces concentric circles rather than fringes, expressing confusion about the reported central black fringe and its behavior as arm length varies.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the fringes produced by the interferometer and the conditions under which they appear. There is no consensus on the explanation for the central black fringe or the implications of the beamsplitter design.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss various assumptions regarding the setup and alignment of the interferometer, as well as the specific characteristics of the beamsplitter and compensator used, which may affect the outcomes observed.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying optics, particularly in experimental setups involving interferometry, as well as individuals exploring the nuances of phase shifts in light waves.

Baggio
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Hi,

I conducted an experiment with the Michelson Inteferometer to obeserve white light fringes but I cannot explain the presence of a central black fringes. I understand a phase shift of pi is introduced in one of the beams but where/how does this shift occur?

thanks
 
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The phase shift is simply a result of the fact that the distances to different parts of the screen from the two slits are different. When this difference is n+1/2 (n integer)wavelengths the waves cancel and it shows as black.
 
Michelson interferometer doesn't use slits.. Its uses two mirrors and a beam splitter. Apparently the pi shift is introduced due to reflections but i don't see which reflection causes it
 
When you vary the length of an arm, the central fringe should alter between dark and bright.

What kind of beamsplitter do you have? Do you use a compensator?
 
Yes we use a compensator
 
What kind of beamsplitter do you use? It is probably either 1) a film on substrate, 2) a film framed by a ring, or 3) a cube.

If it is 1), your compensator has to be the same thickness and material as the beamsplitter substrate, and it has to be in the arm of the film (not the backside).

The length of the arms must also be adjusted of course.
 
Baggio,

A pi phase shift is introduced into an electromagnetic wave anytime it is traveling through a medium of one index of refraction and reflects off of a surface with a higher index of refraction.

Beamsplitters are made of thin pieces of glass with a coating on each surface that has an index of refraction halfway between that of glass and air. It is this coating off of which the beam reflects. In the Michelson interferometer, the beamsplitter is typically coated such that one side will not reflect light (an Anti-Reflective coating), but the other will reflect light.

Let's assume that you put the reflective side first and we'll examine the two light paths.

Path 1:
The beam will travel through the air and half will reflect off of your beamsplitter. Since Nair < Ncoating there will be a pi phase shift. This half then reflects off of a mirror. This gives another pi phase shift because Nair < Nmirror. To complete its path, this half of the beam will travel directly through the beamsplitter at your screen with a total of a 2*pi phase shift.

Path 2:
The beam will travel through the air and half will pass through your beamsplitter. This half then reflects off of a mirror with a pi phase shift. Then it returns to the beamsplitter from the back side. It enters the beamsplitter, travels through the glass, reflects off the front side and goes to your screen. This time it's traveling in glass and reflecting off air. Nglass > Ncoating so there is no pi phase shift. This half of the beam has a total of a 1*pi phase shift.

Note:
One fact was overlooked in the above discussion: Actually the beamsplitter splits the beams a second time when the return to it. The result is that half of your input beam returns in the direction it originally came from.
 
The Michelson interferometers I know, do not produce fringes but concentric circles when alignment is perfect. If you see fringes, the interferometer is not perfectly aligned and you just see a partial view of the circles. What puzzles me is that you see "a central black fringes" (one or several?). If you see the center, it alternates from dark to light as the arm length varies. In fact, as the arm length varies, you see concentric circles originating in the center that enlarges, or circles that converge and disappear at the center. I do not understand what you saw.
 
Hi, thanks Stainsor... Yep thanks for that if only you replied two years ago :)

Now I have more complicated problems to deal with now I'd doing a PhD in quantum optics :S
 

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