Model Rocket: Max Height & Flight Duration

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a model rocket launched vertically with an initial speed and constant upward acceleration, seeking to determine its maximum height, time to reach that height, and total flight duration. The problem is situated within the context of kinematics and equations of motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of kinematics equations, questioning the initial conditions and how to handle the transition when the rocket's engines stop. There are attempts to clarify the definitions of initial and final velocities, as well as the effects of gravity during free fall.

Discussion Status

Several participants have shared their calculations and reasoning, with some expressing confusion over the total time in the air and the correct application of kinematic equations. There is a mix of correct and incorrect interpretations of the problem, with guidance being offered on how to approach the calculations in two distinct phases: powered ascent and free fall.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the methods they can use. There is an ongoing exploration of assumptions regarding initial velocities and the effects of gravity on the rocket's motion.

runner1738
Messages
71
Reaction score
0
A model rocket is launched straight upward with an initial speed of 45.6 m/s. It accelerates with a constant upward acceleration of 1.5 m/s^2 until its engines stop at an altitude of 180.5 m. What is the maximum height reached by the rocket? Answer in units of m.

How long after lift-off does the rocket reach its maximum height? Answer in units of s.

How long is the rocket in the air? Answer in units of s.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
runner1738 said:
A model rocket is launched straight upward with an initial speed of 45.6 m/s. It accelerates with a constant upward acceleration of 1.5 m/s^2 until its engines stop at an altitude of 180.5 m. What is the maximum height reached by the rocket? Answer in units of m.

How long after lift-off does the rocket reach its maximum height? Answer in units of s.

How long is the rocket in the air? Answer in units of s.
Ok, do you have a kinematics formula sheet. I can't just keep telling you what formulae to use...
 
lol i have a physics book but i don't know what section it is or what to look up
 
Here are the basic formulae:

[tex]V_f^2 = V_i^2 + 2ad[/tex]

[tex]d = V_it + \frac{1}{2}at^2[/tex]

[tex]d=vt[/tex]

[tex]V_f = V_i + at[/tex]
 
This problem is based on fundamental equations of motion as mentioned by christinono.
In this case Vi=0,a=-9.81m/s^2 and other quantities can be directly substituted to get the desired result.
 
I can see how Vi=0 because its a constant acceleration, but how do you calculate the difference when the engines shut off? and how much farther it goes. i got 51.179 as my Vf, then do i subtract -9.8 from that and get the time after it that it takes then have that be my total time? and distance?
 
runner1738 said:
A model rocket is launched straight upward with an initial speed of 45.6 m/s. It accelerates with a constant upward acceleration of 1.5 m/s^2 until its engines stop at an altitude of 180.5 m. What is the maximum height reached by the rocket? Answer in units of m.

How long after lift-off does the rocket reach its maximum height? Answer in units of s.

How long is the rocket in the air? Answer in units of s.
runner1738 said:
I can see how Vi=0 because its a constant acceleration, but how do you calculate the difference when the engines shut off? and how much farther it goes. i got 51.179 as my Vf, then do i subtract -9.8 from that and get the time after it that it takes then have that be my total time? and distance?
Where did you get Vi = 0 /ms? Vi is 45.6 m/s, as the question says. Rather, the final velocity is zero, since it's asking for the MAX height. At that point, it will stop for a split second and come back down. All you have to do is look at all the formulae you have and decide which one will allow you to find the unknown with the info you are given. In this case, you will have to split it up into 2 steps.
1) Find the final speed of the rocket (by final, I mean when the engine stops). You know:
Vi = 45.6 m/s
[tex]a = 1.5 \frac{m}{s^2}[/tex]
V2 = ?
d = 180.5 m

2) The value you found for Vf in 1) will be the initial velocity for the second part. Now, you want to find the distance traveled by the rocket once the engine stops. Here's what you know:

Vi = whatever you found in 1)
[tex]a = -9.81 \frac{m}{s^2}[/tex]
V2 = 0 m/s
d = ?

Get it?
 
yea i got all that right, just the problem I am having now is the total time. i thought it would be 3.729557083(engines)+5.2239111790(engines off)+ (314.217691/9.8)(free fall)=41.01649796 total time?
 
runner1738 said:
yea i got all that right, just the problem I am having now is the total time. i thought it would be 3.729557083(engines)+5.2239111790(engines off)+ (314.217691/9.8)(free fall)=41.01649796 total time?
Is that not the answer in the book. If not, show me your work, and I'll tell you what you did wrong.
 
  • #10
in question 26 it asks how long does it take to reach max h, i put in 8.95347 s and that was correct then for 25 the max height in m, i put in 314.217 and that was correct, then 27 is total time in air so i did 314.217/9.8 (no other indication of gravity) and got 32.06265305 and then added the answer from 26 to it the 8.95347 and got 41.0162406 s but when i typed that it in said incorrect
 
  • #11
runner1738 said:
in question 26 it asks how long does it take to reach max h, i put in 8.95347 s and that was correct then for 25 the max height in m, i put in 314.217 and that was correct, then 27 is total time in air so i did 314.217/9.8 (no other indication of gravity) and got 32.06265305 and then added the answer from 26 to it the 8.95347 and got 41.0162406 s but when i typed that it in said incorrect
Let me make sure I understand:
You didn't get the right answer for the total time the rocket was in the air and you found that the max height was 314.217m (which was right)?

If that's the case, you need to use a kinematics equation to find the time for the rocket to come down once it has reached its max height. You know the following:
Vi = 0m/s
[tex]a = -9.81 \frac{m}{s^2}[/tex]
d = 314.217m (if that's right)
t = ?

Can you find a formula that fits?
 

Similar threads

Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
5K
  • · Replies 53 ·
2
Replies
53
Views
6K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
Replies
13
Views
2K
  • · Replies 15 ·
Replies
15
Views
6K
Replies
3
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K