Troubleshooting Integration: Solving \int x cos5x dx

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function \(\int x \cos 5x \, dx\), specifically focusing on the application of integration by parts and the discrepancies between participants' results and the book's answer.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss their attempts at integration by parts, with one participant outlining their steps and expressing confusion over the final answer. Others question the correctness of the constants involved and the signs in the results.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the integration process, with participants providing their work and questioning each other's reasoning. Some guidance has been offered regarding the integration of sine and cosine functions, but no consensus has been reached on the final answer.

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Participants note discrepancies between their results and the book's answer, particularly regarding constants and signs. There is also a mention of the need to compute specific integrals as part of the integration by parts process.

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I've been doing this for a while and I can't get the same answer as the book. I am just going to give the problem first to see if you guys end up where I did, please explain your work.

[tex]\int x cos5x dx[/tex]

I can solve it just fine using integration by parts but I don't get the right answer
 
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Why not?It's the only way to do it without getting a headache... :-p

Post your work.

Daniel.
 
ok

this is what I am doing. I have u=x dv=cos5x du=1 v=1/5 cos 5x (i forgot what the rule is for a cos with something like 5x, just x cos x?)

with that I get
[tex]1/5xsin5x - 1/5\int sin5x dx[/tex]
=[tex]1/5xsin5x - 1/5 cos5x + C[/tex]
 
btw if it helps any the answer in the back of the book is the same as mine except for the fact that the 1/5 in front of the cos is 1/25
 
And the sign shoud be a plus too... :wink:

Why is it 1/25 and not 1/5.Better put on what condition would the factor be 1/5.What function would you have to integrate??

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
And the sign shoud be a plus too... :wink:

Why is it 1/25 and not 1/5.Better put on what condition would the factor be 1/5.What function would you have to integrate??

Daniel.
I don't understand what you just said, are you asking a question or trying to answer one? I am :confused: sorry
 
Sorry if i seemed evasive.Didn't mean it.
Compute this
[tex]\int \sin 5x \ dx[/tex]

It's the last integral u had to compute after taking the partial integration initially.

Daniel.
 
dextercioby said:
Sorry if i seemed evasive.Didn't mean it.
Compute this
[tex]\int \sin 5x \ dx[/tex]

It's the last integral u had to compute after taking the partial integration initially.

Daniel.
wouldnt that be 1/5 cos 5x?
 
ok here it is. The answer should be

1/5xsin5x + 1/25 cos5x + C

First you use: u = x
du = dx
dv = cos5x dx
v = 1/5sinx dx

and now you use the integral by parts:

uv - \int vdu = 1/5xsin5x - \int 1/5sin5xdx

u take the 1/5 (constant out the integral) --> 1/5xsin5x - 1/5 \int sin5xdx

= 1/5xsin5x - 1/5 (-1/5cos5x)
= 1/5xsin5x + 1/25cos5x + C

thre you go!
 
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ok here it is. The answer should be

1/5xsin5x + 1/25cos5x + C

First you use: u = x
du = dx
dv = cos5x dx
v = 1/5sinx dx

and now you use the integral by parts:

uv - \int \vdu\ = 1/5xsin5x - \int \1/5sin5x \ dx

u take the 1/5 (constant out the integral) --> 1/5xsin5x - 1/5 \int \sin5x \ dx

= 1/5xsin5x - 1/5 (-1/5cos5x)
= 1/5xsin5x + 1/25cos5x + C

thre you go!
 
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sorry, I couldn't get the symbols working:

[tex]. . . . . . . . .[/tex].

ok here it is. The answer should be

1/5xsin5x + 1/25cos5x + C

First you use: u = x
du = dx
dv = cos5x dx
v = 1/5sinx dx

and now you use the integral by parts:

uv - [tex]\int \vdu\[/tex] = 1/5xsin5x - [tex]\int \1/5sin5x \ dx[/tex]

u take the 1/5 (constant out the integral) --> 1/5xsin5x - [tex]1/5 \int \sin5x \ dx[/tex]


= 1/5xsin5x - 1/5 (-1/5cos5x)
= 1/5xsin5x + 1/25cos5x + C

thre you go!
 
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digink said:
wouldnt that be 1/5 cos 5x?

With the minus.Sine integrated is minus cosine.

Daniel.
 

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