Can Lightning Be Utilized to Create an Anti-Gravitational Device?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of utilizing lightning and its principles to create an anti-gravitational device, focusing on theoretical concepts, definitions of anti-gravity, and the role of electromagnetism in lifting objects against gravity.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that harnessing the principles of lightning, along with strong electromagnets and significant power, could theoretically lead to an anti-gravitational device.
  • Another participant questions the meaning of "the principle of lightning," indicating a lack of clarity on the term.
  • A participant argues that electromagnetic forces do not significantly affect gravity, suggesting that more than just lightning would be needed for anti-gravity.
  • Clarification is provided regarding the nature of lightning, specifically how it involves the movement of electrons between the Earth and clouds.
  • Some participants differentiate between lifting objects with magnets and true anti-gravity, asserting that merely lifting does not constitute anti-gravity.
  • One participant defines an acceptable anti-gravitational device as one that reduces the gravitational constant (G), noting that such devices have not been observed.
  • There is a discussion about the definition of anti-gravity, with some suggesting that any device that lifts objects against gravity could be considered anti-gravitational.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the definition of anti-gravity or the feasibility of creating an anti-gravitational device using lightning. Multiple competing views remain regarding the principles involved and the nature of anti-gravity.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the definitions of terms like "anti-gravitational device" and "the principle of lightning," which may affect the clarity of the discussion. There are also unresolved assumptions about the capabilities of electromagnetism in relation to gravity.

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i was wondering if using the principle of lightning and how it works, could be harnessed to make a anti-gravitational device using strong electromagnets and a enormous amount of power. but in theory could it work?
 
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Would you elaborate on what is meant by "the principle of lightening"? I have not heard of that.
 
Its going to take a bit more then lightning in any form for anti gravity.

The electro-magnetic force just dosent effect gravity very much.
 
principle of lightening

i was refurring to the way lightning works how it pulls the positive electrons out of the Earth's crust and causes the clouds negative electrons to create a spark or lightening
 
Lifting something with a magnet, whether electro-magnet or not, is not "anti-gravity".
 
Yup, and nor is hoisting a weight with a rope.
 
Not "lightning".

"lightening"!

"That's so crazy it just might work!"
 
Basically, the only anti-gravitation device I'll accept of that name, is a device which reduces the value of big G. I haven't seen any such devices yet.
 
B166ER said:
i was refurring to the way lightning works how it pulls the positive electrons out of the Earth's crust and causes the clouds negative electrons to create a spark or lightening

Ah, LIGHTNING. The way you spelled it, I pictured a spiritual master and his students sitting on cushions and bouncing up and down, trying to levitate. :smile:
 
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B166ER said:
i was wondering if using the principle of lightning and how it works, could be harnessed to make a anti-gravitational device using strong electromagnets and a enormous amount of power. but in theory could it work?
You have to say what you mean by "anti-gravitational device". If you simply mean something that lifts massive things against gravity and uses a possibly enormous amount of power, then a simple elevator already qualifies.
 
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B166ER said:
i was wondering if using the principle of lightning and how it works, could be harnessed to make a anti-gravitational device using strong electromagnets and a enormous amount of power. but in theory could it work?

The short answer is no.
 
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Is your definition of anti-gravity something that cuts out or in someway distorts the gravitational field enough to limit gravity's effects, OR is it mearly using a force against gravity to lift something up. In the latter case you could consider yourself an anti gravity device, since you can pick things up.
 

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