Find Critical Numbers of g(x) and f(x) Functions

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The discussion revolves around finding critical numbers for the functions g(x) = x + 1/x and f(x) = x ln(x). Participants are exploring the definitions and conditions under which critical numbers are identified, particularly focusing on differentiability and domain constraints.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are attempting to identify critical numbers based on the derivative conditions and differentiability. Questions arise regarding the inclusion of points in the domain and the implications of differentiability at those points.

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Some participants have provided insights into the definition of critical numbers, emphasizing the importance of domain restrictions. There is an acknowledgment of confusion regarding the application of these definitions, particularly in relation to the function f(x).

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There is a noted misunderstanding about the definition of differentiability and its relation to critical numbers, particularly at points where the function is not defined. The discussion highlights the need to consider the domain when identifying critical numbers.

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I'm supposed to find all critical numbers of the given function.
Book defines critical number c as the place where f'(c)=0 or where f is not differentiable.

1. g(x)= x + 1/x
2. f(x)= x ln (x)

work:
1. [tex]g'(x) = \frac{x^2 - 1}{x^2}[/tex]

c= 1, -1, 0

Zero is wrong however. I put it in the answer because the function is not differentiable at that point. So I'm guessing I have the definition of differntiable at a point wrong. The limit doesn't exist as x approaches 0 so I thought the function wouldn't be differentiable there.

2. f'(x) = lnx + x/x

c= 1/e and all numbers less than or equal to zero.

The book only lists 1/e so same problem here.
 
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to add to your definition of a critical number, c must also be in the domain of the original function, thus for g(x), 0 is not in the domain of the original function and so it is not a critical number.
 
Skomatth said:
I'm supposed to find all critical numbers of the given function.
Book defines critical number c as the place where f'(c)=0 or where f is not differentiable.

1. g(x)= x + 1/x
2. f(x)= x ln (x)

work:
1. [tex]g'(x) = \frac{x^2 - 1}{x^2}[/tex]

c= 1, -1, 0

Zero is wrong however. I put it in the answer because the function is not differentiable at that point. So I'm guessing I have the definition of differntiable at a point wrong. The limit doesn't exist as x approaches 0 so I thought the function wouldn't be differentiable there.

2. f'(x) = lnx + x/x

c= 1/e and all numbers less than or equal to zero.

The book only lists 1/e so same problem here.

Why...?Are those numbers in the domain of the function "f"...?If so,is the derivative zero...?

Daniel.
 
Thx, math student I understand now. I was used to my pre-cal teacher teacher telling me to find critical points to solve rational inequalties which included numbers not in the domain.
 
I'm glad you figured out this is something totally different and that the domain of the function is essential.

Daniel.
 

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