AP English Class - What to Expect?

  • Thread starter Thread starter jai6638
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Ap Class English
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the expectations and content of AP English classes, specifically AP English Language and Composition and AP English Literature and Composition. Participants share their thoughts on writing skills required, the focus of each course, and the implications for students considering these classes.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses concern about their average writing skills and questions whether AP English requires excellent writing abilities.
  • Another participant notes that there are two AP English tests: one focused on language and composition, and the other on literature, suggesting that both involve significant writing.
  • Some participants argue that AP English Language emphasizes writing skills, while AP English Literature focuses more on literary analysis, including poetry.
  • A participant shares their experience that AP writing is different from regular writing, emphasizing speed over quality, and mentions achieving a high score despite writing bland essays.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential boredom of an AP class focused on writing skills, though one participant acknowledges the long-term benefits of improving writing abilities.
  • There are discussions about the relevance of writing skills for careers in engineering, highlighting the necessity of writing project proposals and reports.
  • Some participants caution that the AP class may not enhance technical or persuasive writing skills, suggesting it may be more focused on test preparation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the focus and effectiveness of AP English classes. While some believe the courses will help improve writing skills, others question their overall utility and relevance to technical writing.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention varying experiences with AP English classes, indicating that the effectiveness and focus may differ by school or instructor. There is also uncertainty about how much the courses will aid in developing specific writing skills beyond test preparation.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering AP English classes, educators interested in curriculum content, and individuals exploring the relationship between writing skills and various career paths, particularly in STEM fields.

jai6638
Messages
263
Reaction score
0
Hey... my teacher has recommended me for AP English next year and was wondering if i am upto it... i wanted to know if Ap english requires you to have excellant writing skills ( which i don't possess...im an average writer.).. What are the topics covered in an AP english class? do they focus a lot on essays rather than literature or is it vice versa?


thanks much
 
Physics news on Phys.org
iirc, there are two ap english tests that you can take. One is english writing, the other is english lit. I would contact the teacher/s that teach ap english and ask them what they cover.
 
Isnt this a physics forum?

ban english! ^-^ :confused:
 
No, no, mattmns has a few things wrong..

There are indeed two ap english tests: lit. and comp; language and comp. As you can see, both of them have "composition" in them. Over half of each of the tests requires writing. But don't back away.. take the class. It's not so bad, and if you have a good teacher, you'll learn a lot (ya read a bunch of books, and your writing skills will develop).
 
English is awesome! How are you going to get your grant money if you can't use it? :cool:
Back to the OT, there are two AP tests you can take as someone mentioned: English language and English Literature. For English language it's a much more general "write an essay" type test where one essay could be straight out of an SAT Writing test. Literature is much more formulaic and involves sitting down and analyzing a poem and all the various types of metaphors etc.
If you're not sure of your writing skills I'd recommend taking the language one: the idea behind it is to prepare you for the test in May so it's ok if your skills going in are average provided you're willing to work hard!
Oh and a word to the wise about the AP English tests should you want it to actually count in college: some colleges only count one for their general education requirement but not the other and vice versa. So if you've got your heart set on a college already that has a required English course it might be worth your while to think ahead as to which test you want to prepare for.
 
well i checked and turns out that i will be doing the Ap English language and Composition course... so i guess that involves quite a lot of writing... hmmmm! i really don't like writing essays and i can't imagine how i could write an exam which mostly consists of essays :( :( !

On a separate note, are good writing skills essential for a mechanical/aeronautic engineer?

Thanks much for ur replies.. :)
 
AP writing is a lot different than normal writing. You write very quickly, so nobody expects it to be that good. Or even good at all. You can even have bad writing, and you'll be fine as long as you get your point across.

I took the test, and I must say that I wrote the dullest, blandest, least interesting essays I've ever written. Each paragraph started in exactly the same way, proceeded in exactly the same way, and ended in exacly the same way. I wouldn't want to read them. But they got their point across well, and I got a 5.

But then, that's why I think AP writing classes are pretty useless. Nobody in their right mind would write like that except on a test.

--J
 
lol i see.. so let me get this straight... Ap language and composition, all they stress on is writing skills while in Ap lit and composition they stress on literature ( including poems,etc ) and writing skills..is this correct?
 
Lit focuses a lot on the analysis of a work, as in you'd get a sonnet and they ask what the author is saying. You say it's showing blah blah blah due to the metaphor in line three and the fact that this word is placed before that one in line seven... repeat ad nauseum. Very formulaic but teaches you to be analytical. It's also a good idea for the lit one to read a bunch of "classic" good novels because there's always a question on it relating to a general theme and asking you to pick books from a given list for your examples. So if you don't have a good resume in that department it will backfire on you!
 
  • #10
jai6638 said:
lol i see.. so let me get this straight... Ap language and composition, all they stress on is writing skills while in Ap lit and composition they stress on literature ( including poems,etc ) and writing skills..is this correct?

Take both tests.

My school offered language and comp as AP english 11, and then lit and comp as AP english 12 (junior and senior year respectively).
 
  • #11
Hmmmm a AP class everyday on improving writing skills... damn :(! Good in the long term but boring in the short term! oh well, i guess I am going to take the course anyways since it'll probably help improve my writing skills.! Although, i do know who my teacher is going to be... Shall ask around and see if he's good at what he does..

Shall probably take AP LIt in the 12th grade if my 11th grade Ap language and Comp teacher recommends me...
 
  • #12
jai6638 said:
On a separate note, are good writing skills essential for a mechanical/aeronautic engineer?

You have to write project proposals, and reports on what you've done. If you're involved in developing a product for sale, you may be involved in writing the manual or documentation for it. Also, in many companies, much of the daily communication that used to be handled face to face or in meetings is now handled via e-mail. If you can write well, people will notice it. People such as bosses. :wink:

I've read two or three newspaper or magazine articles in the past few months about companies sending their employees to writing courses because nobody can understand their e-mail!
 
  • #13
Maybe it's different for other schools, but when I took the class, it didn't help any aspect of my writing except for the write-an-essay-real-quick-for-a-test aspect. The class was taught to the test. I don't think the class would help technical writing or persuasive writing.

Then again, maybe your class will focus on actual writing and just have the test as a side show. Who knows. I think I'm pretty safe in saying not to expect too much, though.

--J
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
8K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
6K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
6K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 56 ·
2
Replies
56
Views
7K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
7K