Calculate Heating Time for Water Bath to Reach 58.9°C

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time required for a specific amount of water to reach a target temperature using a resistor in a circuit. The subject area includes concepts from thermodynamics and electrical circuits.

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  • Participants explore the calculation of heat energy required to raise the temperature of water and the power output of the resistor. There are attempts to clarify the correct resistance to use in the calculations and the implications of using total versus individual resistances.

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Some participants have provided guidance on focusing on the correct resistor for power calculations. There is acknowledgment of misunderstandings regarding the relationship between resistance and heating time, and some participants express confusion about the results they obtained.

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"In the circuit in the figure, a 20-ohm resistor sits inside 102 g of pure water that is surrounded by insulating Styrofoam."

"If the water is initially at temperature 10.1 deg. celsius, how long will it take for its temperature to rise to 58.9 deg. celsius?
Use as the heat capacity of water, and express your answer in seconds using three significant figures."

What I did was finding the total resistance to be equal to 30 ohms.

I then use the mc(delta t) formula; the energy needed is then equal to 20856.144 J. I then equated this to P=V^2/R. I then found the time to be ~ 656 seconds. I'm pretty sure I did it right but MP said I did it wrong. Any suggestions?

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I found P to be 30 J/s; V is given = 30 volt and total R was found to be 30 ohms. I thought I got it wrong cos of using 30 ohms so I tried using 20 ohms (resistance of the resistor in the water bath) instead of the resistance of the total systemk, but I still got it wrong. Any suggestions? Please help. :cry:
 
You're calculating the required heat energy to raise the temperature of the water correctly.

The mistake you are making is in taking the total resistance of the circuit. Remember only the 20 ohm resistor is in the water, so you only want the power output from that one. Try calculating the current through that resistor and applying [tex]P = I^2R[/tex]. Here R should be the 20 ohm resistance only.
 
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Thanks for the tip. I got the answer now. It didn't make sense to me though on why it'd take longer to heat when there're less resistors.
 
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Thanks for the tip. I got the answer now. It didn't make sense to me though on why it'd take longer to heat when there're less resistors.

Because you're only considering the power output from the 20 ohm resistor rather than from the whole 30 ohm resistance in the circuit. The current through the single 20 ohm resistance is equal to that through the "effective" 10 ohm resistance formed by the remaining resistors (since they're in series). When the current is the same, the power output is directly proportional to the resistance. Do you see now ?
 
Thanks, I do now. :)
 

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