Why Mass Not Conserved in Weak Quark Interactions?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of mass conservation in weak quark interactions, specifically examining the decay process of a down quark into an up quark and a W- boson. Participants explore the implications of mass and energy conservation in particle interactions.

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  • One participant questions why mass is not conserved in weak quark interactions, citing specific masses of down and up quarks and the W- boson.
  • Another participant asserts that mass conservation does not apply, emphasizing that energy conservation is the relevant principle, and that a real W-boson cannot be produced in this process.
  • A later reply provides an example of electron-positron annihilation into photons, illustrating that while energy and momentum are conserved, the sum of rest masses is not conserved.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of mass conservation in weak interactions, with differing views on the relevance of mass versus energy conservation.

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The discussion highlights the distinction between mass and energy conservation, but does not resolve the implications of virtual particles or the specifics of mass-energy relationships in particle physics.

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Hi, this may be a stupid and obvious question but its my first post so allow me to ask:

Why is mass not conserved in most weak quark interactions e.g : d → u + W-
the mass of the down quark is about 4.8 MeV
and the up quark is about 2.4 MeV
and the W- mass is 80.4 GeV!
And even accounting for the constituent quark mass the equation doesn't add up,
could someone clear this up for me? Thanks.
 
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There is no mass conservation.
There is energy conservation - and your process cannot produce a real W-boson for that reason. It can, however, produce a virtual W-boson (that can violate the energy-momentum relation for the W) which quickly decays into other particles.
 
okay thanks for clearing that up for me :)
 
look at the simple example

e^+ + e^- \to 2\gamma

Energy E and momentum p are conserved. The invariant mass m is conserved, too:

E = E_{e^+} + E_{e^-}
p = p_{e^+} + p_{e^-}
m^2 = E^2 - p^2

and

E' = E'_{\gamma_1} + E'_{\gamma_2}
p' = p'_{\gamma_1} + p'_{\gamma_2}
m'^2 = E'^2 - p'^2

with

m = m'

But of course the sum of the rest masses is not conserved

m_{e^+} +m_{e^-} \neq 2 m_{\gamma}
 

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