Is Fire Simply Incandescent Gas?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the nature of fire, exploring its definition and characteristics. Participants touch on philosophical, chemical, and physical aspects of fire, including its relation to oxidation and the phenomenon of luminosity.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that fire can be viewed as a philosophical concept, referencing historical perspectives such as the four elements of alchemy.
  • Others argue that fire is fundamentally a phenomenon associated with oxidation, requiring a self-sustaining reaction that liberates more heat than needed to initiate it.
  • A participant mentions that fire produces a flame due to the luminosity of ions and hot particles, indicating a physical explanation of the phenomenon.
  • One participant simply refers to "incandescent gas," which may imply a focus on the physical state of fire without further elaboration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definition and nature of fire, with no consensus reached on a singular explanation.

Contextual Notes

Some definitions and explanations may depend on philosophical interpretations or specific scientific contexts, which remain unresolved in the discussion.

evthis
What is fire?
 
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evthis said:
What is fire?
Hot stuff. :-p

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evthis said:
What is fire?
Ah, a PHILOSOPHICAL question! To the alchemists of old, it's one of the four Elements. To mystics and magicians, it's the principle of warmth, expansion, creativity...the "Yod" of the four-fold unutterable Tetragrammaton (YHVH). But...perhaps you were after a less esoteric answer? ;) Fire, as we know it, is a phenomenon that often accompanies oxidation. There are two aspects to such oxidation that must occur for it to usually be called "fire": 1) The reaction must be self-sustaining, ie, it must liberate more heat than is required to initiate it. 2) It must produce a flame, which is caused by the luminosity of ions, and/or hot particles.
 
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