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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a discrete random variable with a probability function defined as fx(x) = c/x! for x = 0, 1, 2, ... Participants explore the normalization of the probability function and the implications of the countability of the variable's range.

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  • One participant suggests that to find the constant c, the total probability must equal 1, leading to the equation \sum_{x=0}^{\infty} f(x) = 1.
  • Another participant notes that the sum \sum_{x=0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x!} equals e, which aids in determining c as 1/e.
  • A participant expresses confusion regarding the definition of a discrete random variable, questioning whether the unbounded nature of the values (0, 1, 2, ...) implies that the range is uncountable.
  • Another participant clarifies that countable refers to countably infinite sets, asserting that the nonnegative integers are indeed countable.

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There is some agreement on the normalization of the probability function and the value of c. However, there is disagreement and confusion regarding the definition of discrete random variables and the implications of countability, which remains unresolved.

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Participants discuss the implications of the term "unbounded" in relation to the countability of the range of the random variable, leading to a nuanced exploration of definitions in probability theory.

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Let X be a random variable with probability function:
[itex]fx(x) = c/x!, x = 0, 1, 2, ...[/itex]

Find c.

By first guess was to form the sum:
[itex]\sum_{i=0}^{x} c/i! = 1[/itex]
But I have no idea if that's the right approach or how to proceed.
 
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Probably you have to normalize the probability function, in other words the total probability should be 1:

[tex]\sum_{x=0}^{\infty} f(x) = 1[/tex]

This is easy because:

[tex]\sum_{x=0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{x!} = e[/tex]
 
ahhh!
stupid me wasn't aware of that result, thanks heaps for that.




thanks, [itex]c = 1/e[/itex] for anyone whos interested. I was able to complete the other problems relating to this question.

however I have one small problem, in my studies I've learned "a random variable X will be defined to be discrete if the range of X is countable" - introduction to theory of statistics (mood). but since the values of X was unbounded in the question (X = 0, 1, 2, ...) i.e: [itex]Z+[/itex] that is uncountable. ?
 
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buddingscientist said:
however I have one small problem, in my studies I've learned "a random variable X will be defined to be discrete if the range of X is countable" - introduction to theory of statistics (mood). but since the values of X was unbounded in the question (X = 0, 1, 2, ...) i.e: [itex]Z+[/itex] that is uncountable. ?
Does countable mean finite or countably infinite? It almost surely means countably infinite. The nonnegative integers are easily seen to be countable:
{1, 2, 3, ...}
{0, 1, 2, ...}
I can't read your original question, so if you meant something else by "unbounded", sorry, but the nonnegative integers are bounded below by 0.
 

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