Using Newton's Laws to Escape a Frozen Lake

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving Newton's laws in the context of escaping from a slippery frozen lake. The scenario presents a challenge where the individual cannot walk due to the lack of friction and must consider alternative methods to reach the shore using rocks.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the idea of using rocks to generate momentum by throwing them in the opposite direction of the shore. Questions arise about the applicability of conservation of momentum and how to represent this scenario with free body diagrams.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing thoughts on the proposed solution of throwing rocks and its relation to Newton's third law. There is an acknowledgment of the need to clarify concepts such as momentum and free body diagrams, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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One participant notes that conservation of momentum has not been covered in their studies yet, which may affect their ability to apply this concept in the problem. Additionally, the problem constraints emphasize the lack of friction on the ice.

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I have this question I have to do for my physics class... I have been thinking about it for an hour now, but can't figure it out. Any help would be greatly appreciated. here is the question:

You find yourself in the middle of a frozen lake with a slippery surface so slippery (ms = 0, mk = 0) that you cannot walk. However, you happen to have several rocks in your pocket. The ice is extremely hard. It cannot be chipped. The rocks slip on the ice as much (if not better) than your feet do. Can you think of a way to get to the shore? Use free body diagrams and Newton's laws to explain your reasoning.
 
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this may be erroneous but here goes anyway

couldnt you simply throw the rocks in the opposite direction of the shore

This way because of conservation of momentum you will get pushed forward. I guess you should throw them all at once that way you get max acceleration. Otherwise the momentum mayb e not be enough to make you move. You won't slow down because there is no firciton.
 
I was kind of thinking about something like that, but I don't know if I can use it because we have not studied the conservation of momentum yet. If I did do that, how would I draw the free body diagram? Thanks.
 
thats the best solution. That is Newtons 3'd law. When you throw the rock in the opposite direction, there is an equal and opposite force on you. Now just put the diagram together.

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Nenad
 

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