If the world is composed, at least partially of, particles

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The discussion explores the nature of particles in the universe, questioning their similarities and differences, and whether they are produced through a standard process. It touches on concepts from quantum mechanics, including quantum numbers and the internal structure of particles, while also considering competing models of particle interactions.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that particles, like electrons, are fundamentally similar, akin to items produced from the same mold.
  • Others introduce the concept of quantum numbers, such as flavors and colors, to explain differences between subatomic particles.
  • A participant proposes that if electrons are considered real particles with internal oscillations, this could lead to a model that reconciles various assumptions about particle behavior.
  • One participant presents a proposal for a single force and force carrier model, claiming it addresses issues like the Galaxy gravity problem, while acknowledging that their ideas have not been well received by others.
  • Another participant emphasizes that the structure or shape of a particle is fundamental to its identity, separate from what it contains, likening it to a cup that holds different contents.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of particles and their similarities, with no consensus reached on the mechanisms behind their production or the validity of proposed models.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on assumptions about particle behavior and definitions of forces, while the discussion includes unresolved questions about experimental validation of the proposed models.

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If the world is composed, at least partially of, particles, what makes them so similar? Like the buttons produced from the same mould. Electrons are all the same? Do they change a little bit in shape or structure?
 
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The differences between subatomic particles are known as its quantum numbers... Such as flavors, and colors...
 
If you assume, like deBroglie did, that the electron is a real particle, this particle has an internal oscillation which causes the wave around it, you will not find an experiment, which contradicts this assumption.

Take the above quote from another forum together with the reply from quantum

The differences between subatomic particles are known as its quantum numbers... Such as flavors, and colors...

and look for the simplest arrangement that satisfies both assumptions. Current thinking uses four forces and mass, my own proposal is for a single force and a force carrier.
Because the numbers are the same for both arrangements, both are plausable; as would be any other proposal that matches both statements. The great problem lies in devising an experiment that proves one particular proposal to be correct.
My proposal does somethings that the four force model cannot do in that it offers a solution to the Galaxy gravity problem and shows a link between the wave structure of particles and larger bodies. However it is only right to point out that they have not received favourable comments from forum members so its back to the drawing board to try and find a better way of presenting my case.
Meanwhile the answer to your question is that there is no confirmed answer.
 
What i am trying to say is that the particles were produced as if by some standard production process to make them so similar. Is nature capable of such process?

The structure or shape of a particle is the basic mechanism of particles, not what they contain, like a cup, what a cup contain has nothing to do with the shape of the cup, even though what a cup contain often appear along with the cup.
 

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