What is the angle between two vectors?

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The discussion revolves around finding the angle between two vectors, A and B, represented as A=-3i+4j and B=2i+3j. Participants are exploring methods to calculate this angle, including the use of cross and dot products.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of the cross product and its relation to finding the angle. There are questions about the correct application of formulas, particularly regarding the dot product and its comparison to the cross product.

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Multiple interpretations of the cross product and its result are being explored, with some participants questioning the accuracy of the values obtained. Guidance has been offered regarding the use of both the cross product and dot product to find the angle, but no consensus has been reached on the correct approach.

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There is confusion regarding the definitions and calculations of the cross product and dot product, as well as the relationship between these operations and the angle between the vectors. Participants are also referencing a textbook that may contain discrepancies.

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vectors -- basic help

Two vectors are given by A=-3i+4j and B=2i+3j. I need to find the angle between A and B

I know AxB is 17k because:
-3i+3j + 4j*2i = -9k-8k = 17k

I'm not sure how to find the vector
 
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UrbanXrisis said:
Two vectors are given by A=-3i+4j and B=2i+3j. I need to find the angle between A and B

I know AxB is 17k because:
-3i+3j + 4j*2i = -9k-8k = 17k

I'm not sure how to find the vector
Do you know how to find the dot product? (It's very similar to the cosine difference identity in trigonometry)

Edit: By the way, AxB is -18k, not 17k. You have to cross multiply (-3*2)-(4*3) to find the cross product.
 
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my book says -17k for an answer. It might be wrong or something.

To find the angle between A and B...
sin^(-1)[AXB]/[AB]
where AXB is the cross product... and AB is ??

not sure what the equation is says
 
UrbanXrisis said:
my book says -17k for an answer. It might be wrong or something.

To find the angle between A and B...
sin^(-1)[AXB]/[AB]
where AXB is the cross product... and AB is ??

not sure what the equation is says
Yeah, it's -17k. What ever gave you the idea it wasn't? (Okay, I admit, the second time I looked at it, I looked at your -3i + 3j and thought I was looking at your two vectors).

Yes, that would work, since your cross product only has one component - otherwise you'd need the norm. A dot B over the product of the norms also works, but gives you the cosine of the angle, instead.

In other words, you'd wind up with (-3*2)+(4*3)/(5*√13) = cos (θ)
 
The first question you said was " I need to find the angle between A and B"
then "my book says -17k for an answer." You do understand that "-17k" is not an angle, don't you?

Yes, it is true that the length of uxv is |u||v|sin(θ) and you can use that to find the angle. But the cross product is much more complicated than the dot product and u.v is |u||v|cos(θ) that's a much simpler way to find the angle.
 

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