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E=hc/lambda... C

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sorax123
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Feb5-13, 04:25 PM
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I was thinking about refraction and phase velocity change, when i thought about whether the c in e=hc/lambda is always 3x10^8 or does it refer to the speed in the medium?
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in ##E=hc/\lambda## ##c## is always the speed of light in vacuum.
if the speed in the medium is important, it will show up in equations as a refractive index.
as far as the photon is concerned, the "medium" is an array of atoms with empty space in between.
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So if wavelength decreases in a refractive medium, does that mean energy increases???

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E=hc/lambda... C

No. The relationship in question is the QM one for individual photons.

The EM wave description carries energy differently.
http://farside.ph.utexas.edu/teachin...s/node119.html
... it's a different model.
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Feb6-13, 07:46 AM
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I was thinking about refraction and phase velocity change, when i thought about whether the c in e=hc/lambda is always 3x10^8 or does it refer to the speed in the medium?
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It depends on what do you mean by λ. It is the wavelength in vacuum or in the medium?
Anyway, you should have the formula getting back to E=hf which is valid in vacuum and media as well.
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Feb6-13, 04:46 PM
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Cheers folks. I now see that the qm and wave models must be evaluated differently and that E=hf is a more useful formula to employ :).


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