What makes elephants unique and successful survivors?

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The discussion revolves around a brain teaser related to animal survival and reproduction, specifically focusing on elephants and other species. Participants explore the implications of eradicating certain animals and the conditions under which their populations could rebound, touching on concepts of hybridization and genetic viability.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that baby elephants could be a key to understanding the riddle about animal survival.
  • Others propose alternative answers, such as ostriches, frogs, and hybrids like hinnies and mules, while questioning the definitions of "killed" and "animal."
  • A participant argues that if all mules were killed, they could not repopulate due to their sterility, while others challenge this by discussing the potential for crossbreeding and genetic contributions from parent species.
  • There is a suggestion that cloning could be a method to ensure the survival of a species despite eradication.
  • Some participants express frustration over differing interpretations of the riddle and the definitions of species and hybrids.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the answers to the brain teaser, with multiple competing views and interpretations of the questions raised. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of animal eradication and survival.

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There are limitations in the assumptions made about species definitions, reproductive viability, and the conditions under which populations can rebound. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the riddle's parameters.

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Two unrelated teasers:

1- What animal(s) could you kill every single one of, and yet have more of them in a year's time?


2- What do Elephants have that help their species to survive that no other species has?
 
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1. Baby elephants. 2. Baby elephants.[/color]
 
Number 2 is right. Number one is not.
 
May not be the answer you had in mind, but it works.
Alternative answer:
ostriches[/color]
 
Not what I was thinking of either. How do you figure?
 
Not an animal but frogs or butterflies might work...
 
matthyaouw said:
1- What animal(s) could you kill every single one of, and yet have more of them in a year's time?
Is this significant?
 
Well, if you kill all the baby elephants then more will be born by next year. And if you kill all the ostriches then more will hatch next year.
 
nnnnnnnn- No. There are no tricks in the way I worded the question.


BicycleTree- If you killed baby elephants, there would still be elephants in the world. I'm talking like every single one of animal X.

I'm talking eradication of every single cell belonging to this animal, so if it were an osterich, frog or butterfly, this would include their eggs, spawn or pupae.
 
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Okay, then:
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matthyaouw said:
What animal(s) could you kill every single one of, and yet have more of them in a year's time?
How about Hinnies
Also: Mules
 
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I totally think I know the answer, but I don't know how to do that writing in white then pushing select type of writing. (Wha? seriously don't laugh. I don't know this type of stuff). But trust me, I got the answer.
 
  • #13
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  • #14
matthyaouw said:
Two unrelated teasers:

1- What animal(s) could you kill every single one of, and yet have more of them in a year's time?


2- What do Elephants have that help their species to survive that no other species has?

Find an animal that is on the borderline of samespecies with another species. Eradicate one of them. Wait a year and chances are the other species spread out a bit and you have more![/Color]
 
  • #15
RandallB said:
How about Hinnies
Also: Mules

We have a winner.
 
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Mules... their DNA is still there if you don't kill all possible mule parents too! :mad:
 
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but you've still killed all mules. The question did not mention DNA.
 
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It didn't mention all cells either. An ostrich egg is not an ostrich.
 
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An ostrich embryo is still an ostrich. Plus, without parents to incubate the eggs, they would die before hatching.
 
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So you put it in an incubator. And you don't need it to be an embryo; you could get it before it's divided.

Anyway, an adult elephant is not a baby elephant.
 
  • #21
You wanted a cross breed??

Well then my answer is a ZONKEY

That's what happens when a zebra and a donkey breed (and YES it has been done)
 
  • #22
Thanks rachmaninoff. I totally got it now. Anyhow, i was going to say mules too. Aren't they a cross between a horse and a donkey or something. (If that's wrong, somebody let me know). If all of the mules in the world did become extinct, then re-populate, i think the new generation of mules should not be called mules anymore. They should be called dorses or honkeys. Or better yet, horse's asses (since donkeys are sometimes called asses). Just messin with y'all. :smile:
 
  • #23
BicycleTree said:
So you put it in an incubator. And you don't need it to be an embryo; you could get it before it's divided.

Anyway, an adult elephant is not a baby elephant.

Look, We could argue about this forever, but I won't. I did not invent this brainteaser, and I'm not sure what you hope to achive by picking holes in my definitions of animal and killed. If you think that your answer is acceptable, then good for you, stick with your answer, it makes no difference to me.

alkatran said:
You wanted a cross breed??

Well then my answer is a ZONKEY

That's what happens when a zebra and a donkey breed (and YES it has been done)

Aye, I'd accept any crossbreed as an answer.
 
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Another answer:
Cloning. Kill all of a species except for some sperm and egg cells.[/color]
 
  • #25
wikkidwife said:
If all of the mules in the world did become extinct, :
Well since they are sterile in themselfs they will! The point of the riddle that BicycleTree keeps missing is they are sterile cross breads.
Mule cross between donkey stallion (jack) and a horse mare. Hinnies - stallion horse crossed to donkey jennet. They cannot propagate from their own gene pool so destroying the pool doesn't eliminate the anaimal.
Years later you can rebuild an onager/ass, onager/horse, zebra/horse (zebroids), mule, or hinny.

A lot of domestic plants are this way as well, as in corn some crosses can inbreed generating predicable new changes in one or two generations. Being able to generate a desirable seed corn from a second or third generation is a very valuable tool. Produce high volume of seed stock to sell without complicated large scale cross breeding. ( I used to do that part years ago a kid) But continued generations degrade the corn so farmer must buy fresh stock.

ALSO FOR color you can highlight and click on tools at top
 
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They do propagate from their own gene pool; the difference is that their gene pool normally resides split between different species. I'm not saying that hybrids aren't one possible answer.
 
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BicycleTree said:
They do propagate from their own gene pool; the difference is that their gene pool normally resides split between different species. I'm not saying that hybrids aren't one possible answer.
Give it a rest BT your looking like an immature slow learner! Part of doing a puzzle is figuring out and playing by the rules of the puzzle maker! Matthyaouw's only point in HIS brain teaser is sterilecross-breads and even allowed for any cross-bread that's it.

Your taking personal the idea of being wrong and rebelling against right answers because they are not yours.
Take a tip, don't think of it as being wrong - think of it as a mistake you can learn from! I've found that I learn more and faster with that attitude. Good Luck.
 

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