Erlenmeyer Bottle Covering for Shaking Bacteria - Suggestions?

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The discussion revolves around the best practices for covering Erlenmeyer bottles when shaking bacteria, particularly focusing on sterilization, contamination prevention, and gas exchange. Participants explore various methods and materials for covering the bottles during different stages of use.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest covering the Erlenmeyer bottle with foil during shaking to prevent contamination while allowing oxygen in, emphasizing the need for a balance between tightness and looseness.
  • Others propose using cotton plugs for sterilization, arguing that they can filter air while allowing gas exchange during shaking.
  • One participant mentions the use of aluminum foil for covering during sterilization, noting that it helps prevent contamination but raises concerns about evaporation if the media is stored for a longer period.
  • There is a discussion about the importance of not sealing the bottle too tightly during autoclaving to avoid explosions, with suggestions for using loose covers like foil or cotton.
  • Some participants express confusion about how to effectively sterilize the inside of the bottle if it is covered during the sterilization process, leading to further clarification on the necessity of covering to maintain sterility post-autoclaving.
  • One participant shares their experience of using screw cap flasks, noting that they keep the caps partially screwed on during autoclaving to prevent explosions and tighten them afterward to maintain sterility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need to cover the Erlenmeyer bottle to maintain sterility and prevent contamination, but there are multiple competing views on the best materials and methods for doing so, particularly regarding the balance between preventing contamination and allowing gas exchange.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include unresolved questions about the effectiveness of different covering methods during sterilization and the potential for contamination once the bottles are opened to air.

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Should i cover my Erlenmeyer bottle with a folie when i shake my bacteria in the shaker? Should the covering be tight or loosen?

Any suggestions?

Thanks.
 
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Again depending on the bacteria, I'll assume its just E.coli which needs oxygen so then the anwer is tight enough to not let the folie shake off, causing possible contaminations. And loose enough to let oxygen in. Just wrap a small piece around the bottle neck and youll be fine
 
You can use cotton plugs for that purpose, when you are sterilizing your erlenmeyer you should put a cotton plug into it, so that it will become sterile too.
 
You can also put aluminium foil on top of the erlenmeyer prior to sterilization. The idea is to cover the entry so contamination do not enter.

However, if you are going to store the media for a certain time, you want to avoid evaporation. I find that screw cap flask are easier to work with you can have a better control over the entry of air and you can stop evaporation. If you don't have screw caps, the you need to use parafilm to stop the evaporation.
 
Monique said:
You can use cotton plugs for that purpose, when you are sterilizing your erlenmeyer you should put a cotton plug into it, so that it will become sterile too.
Do you mean that i have to cover my bottle when i don't use it, under sterilizing and when i use it in shaking? How can i sterilize the inside of the bottle if i do cover it under sterilizing?

Thanks.
 
mountain said:
Do you mean that i have to cover my bottle when i don't use it, under sterilizing and when i use it in shaking? How can i sterilize the inside of the bottle if i do cover it under sterilizing?

Thanks.

Aren't you keeping your glassware covered when autoclaving? You can't put a lid on tightly in the autoclave, or you'll just explode your flask, but a loose lid such as foil or cotton (cotton is really good because it will act like a filter while the flask is cooling; I've also used disposable surgical drapes folded over a few times and held in place with a rubber band) is essential. If you aren't covering your glassware in the autoclave, as soon as you remove it, it will quickly become non-sterile again as outside air (and bacteria, fungus, mold) enters it as it cools.
 
mountain said:
Do you mean that i have to cover my bottle when i don't use it, under sterilizing and when i use it in shaking? How can i sterilize the inside of the bottle if i do cover it under sterilizing?

Thanks.
You should always cover the erlenmeyer to keep it sterile. You sterilize with heat, so it does not matter if you cover it: just don't make a tight seal so that it will explode (as moonbear mentioned).

The idea of using cotton while shaking your culture, is that it allows gas exchange, but it filters particles in air. Also it filters the aerosal with bacteria that might be created if you shake too vigorously.
 
If you use a screw cap flask as iansmith suggests, I've always kept the caps partially screwed on, in the autoclave, so as to avoid exposions!
(I hate whenever that happens) ..

Other variations, I've also autoclaved with Aluminum over cotton in Erlenmeyer flasks. If you are storing them before use, I've noticed they keep sterile longer than cotton alone.
 
I forgot to mention, as soon as the screw-cap flasks are finished in the autoclave, I tighten the caps. Granted there is a chance of contamination as soon as unsterile air reaches them, but for practical purposes, this technique works well. :smile:
 

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