How Do I Solve These Challenging Definite Integrals?

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of solving several indefinite integrals, specifically involving logarithmic and trigonometric functions, as well as integration by parts techniques.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express uncertainty about how to approach specific integrals, particularly regarding the application of integration by parts. Questions are raised about the choice of 'u' and 'dv', and whether the order matters in this context.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using integration by parts and the importance of the LIATE rule for selecting 'u'. Others are still exploring their understanding of the integrals and seeking clarification on specific steps and choices.

Contextual Notes

It is noted that the integrals in question are indefinite, and there is a sense of urgency due to an upcoming quiz. Participants are encouraged to show their work to facilitate assistance.

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There are several situations I don't know how to solve:

integral of (lnx)/(x^2) dx

integral of e^x(cos2x)dx

integral of ln(1+x^2)dx

I have a quiz tommorow, and after looking through some notes, this is what I couldn't understand.

Please help! thanks.
 
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EasyStyle4747 said:
There are several situations I don't know how to solve:

integral of (lnx)/(x^2) dx

integral of e^x(cos2x)dx

integral of ln(1+x^2)dx

I have a quiz tommorow, and after looking through some notes, this is what I couldn't understand.

Please help! thanks.
These can all be done by the appealing to the product rule (integration by parts). Show your work so that we can help with where you're stuck.
 
[tex]\int udv = uv - \int{vdu}[/tex]
 
Yes, I realize its integration by parts. I've been doing other problems with the product rule. Its just these that I'm stumped on. I basically don't know where to begin with some of these.

for this one: integral of (lnx)/(x^2) dx , are you supposed to change it to (lnx)(x^-2) first and then use parts?

for this one: ntegral of e^x(cos2x)dx, o jeez, i forgot, how do you take the anti-derivative of cos2x

for this one: integral of ln(1+x^2)dx , how do you split it into 2 parts? What do you set u equal to? What do you set dv equal to?

Some general questions:
-Does it matter which part you set dv or u equal to? Or do you HAVE to go in order?

thnx for being helpful people! :wink:
 
Order does in fact matter, and generally LIATE (or ILATE) will help you choose what to make 'u' : Logarithmic, Inverse, Algebraic, Trig, Exponential. For example, your first problem:

[tex]\int \frac{lnx}{x^2}dx[/tex]

let [tex]u=lnx; dv=\frac{1}{x^2}dx[/tex]
And just derive/integrate to find du and v and plug into the aforementioned expression.
 
Those integrals:

a) are not definite.Are indefinite,equivalently,are antiderivarives of certain functions.
b)can be computed via part integration.For the second,two times partial integration is necessary.
 
EasyStyle4747 said:
for this one: ntegral of e^x(cos2x)dx, o jeez, i forgot, how do you take the anti-derivative of cos2x

The integral of cos 2x = (1/2)sin 2x.

for this one: integral of ln(1+x^2)dx , how do you split it into 2 parts? What do you set u equal to? What do you set dv equal to?

You can write that as 1.ln(1 + x^2) dx, but there's probably a better way of doing that integral.

Some general questions:
-Does it matter which part you set dv or u equal to? Or do you HAVE to go in order?

Yeah, it does because one way round you probably won't be able to do the integral. Usually, you take u to be the part that is "easier" to deal with (eg. polynomials, like x^2) and the dv shouldn't get "harder" to deal with when you integrate (eg. exponentials, trig functions). Say you had the integral of x^2.e^x, you'd take u = x^2 and dv/dx = e^x (and you'd have to do integration by parts twice).
 

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