Using Poly-A Sequences & Isogenic/Null Cell Lines for Reporter Genes

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of Poly-A sequences in relation to reporter genes, specifically addressing their positioning relative to gene promoters, as well as the concepts of isogenic and null cell lines. The scope includes theoretical and conceptual aspects of molecular biology and genetic engineering.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why Poly-A sequences would be positioned upstream of a reporter gene, suggesting that understanding their role in eukaryotic DNA transcription is essential.
  • One participant asserts that isogenic cell lines refer to those with similar genomes or genotypes.
  • Another participant explains that null cell lines typically lack a specific trait, though the context of this trait is not detailed.
  • There is a discussion about the typical positioning of Poly-A sequences, with one participant noting that they usually lie downstream of a gene for proper RNA termination and translation, while questioning the implications of an upstream position.
  • Participants inquire whether the Poly-A sequence is upstream of the reporter gene's promoter or the selection marker's promoter, indicating a need for clarification on this point.
  • One participant describes a scenario where the reporter gene is inserted into the genome, suggesting that the normal Poly-A sequence may not protect the fused protein, while the Poly-A upstream of the selection marker promoter is proposed to protect the mRNA of the fused protein.
  • Another participant requests further explanation regarding the implications of the Poly-A positioning and its protective role.
  • A later reply directs participants to external figures for additional conceptual understanding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty regarding the positioning and role of Poly-A sequences, with multiple viewpoints presented about their function and implications. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus reached on the specific roles or mechanisms involved.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the discussion regarding the assumptions about the roles of Poly-A sequences, the definitions of isogenic and null cell lines, and the specific traits associated with null mutants. The discussion also reflects a lack of clarity on the experimental context and the implications of the Poly-A positioning.

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• Why should some Poly-A sequences lay upstream of a reporter gene?
• Isogenic cell lines?
• Null cell lines?

Any ideas are greatly appreciated.
 
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Goodie said:
• Why should some Poly-A sequences lay upstream of a reporter gene?

You should find the answere if ask yourself: What is the role of the polyA sequence/tail during eukaryote DNA transcription?


Goodie said:
• Isogenic cell lines?

Isogenic means similar genome/genotype.

Goodie said:
• Null cell lines?

A null mutant usually lack a specific trait.
 
iansmith said:
You should find the answere if ask yourself: What is the role of the polyA sequence/tail during eukaryote DNA transcription?

Usually the poly A sequence lays downstream of a gene to give it good RNA termination and translation. BUt when it lies upstream is something new :bugeye: . Upstream means before the promoter. How come?
 
Is the polyA upstream of the promoter for the reporter gene (lacZ) or upstream of selection marker (noemycin resistance) promoter.

The reporter gene will be inserted in the gemone and will cut the gene X and the normal polyA will not protetect the fused protein. The poly-A upstream of the selection marker promoter is there to protect the fused protein (geneX-LacZ). The neomycin resistant marker will fused with the rest of the protein and the mRNA will be protect by the geneX polyA tail.
 
iansmith said:
Is the polyA upstream of the promoter for the reporter gene (lacZ) or upstream of selection marker (noemycin resistance) promoter.
The polyA is upstream of the promoter for the reporter gene

iansmith said:
The reporter gene will be inserted in the gemone and will cut the gene X and the normal polyA will not protetect the fused protein.
Can you explain more of this?

iansmith said:
The poly-A upstream of the selection marker promoter is there to protect the fused protein (geneX-LacZ). The neomycin resistant marker will fused with the rest of the protein and the mRNA will be protect by the geneX polyA tail.
Where did you get this?

Thanks.
 
Look at figures 1 and 2 on this page. It will explain some concept.

http://faculty.virginia.edu/mammgenetics/805-3rd03.html
 
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